That clip shows that running the stage in this was nonsense. He literally doesn’t know where the road is. That isn’t motorsport.Quote:
Originally Posted by Morte66
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That clip shows that running the stage in this was nonsense. He literally doesn’t know where the road is. That isn’t motorsport.Quote:
Originally Posted by Morte66
Sketchy corner for some and an off for McErlean...
https://x.com/RallysupportNL/status/...015007994?s=20
My unpopular opinion is this.
We are looking for a world champion, ones that are worthy should be able to handle a dangerous situation or two.
I think its not only in Rallying that we have gone a bit too kindergarten. F1 also for an example, they rarely use rain tyres at all. I get the visibility aspect, I am a car driver myself, but i also know that there is always an option to stay cool and still drive through. Most of the times there is a possible speed that you can carry safely through in any conditions. If its slow then its slow, I mean nobody was going to send it there today anyway…what’s gonna happen at 30kmh?? Humankind need to man the f**k up a bit.
It's not about the drivers. It's just too much of a risk for spectators. WRC can't handle a car having an off and hitting spectators. Or even spectators getting in stage and run over. It's a big no no.
Reality isn't just black and white....Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
Visibility in circuit racing is a whole different matter, but you really really don't want cars hitting stationary cars because they couldn't see each other. Many people have lost their legs or even lives due to such accidents.Quote:
Originally Posted by Odd
Key board warriors should stay a bit calm in such situations.
Might aswell close all mountain skiing resorts then, oh and ground all helicopters aswell.
10:42,9 amended time for Jon...with that time from stewards he is losing third place after first day
So final results after Leg 1 including notional times - https://rally-base.com/2026/rallye-m...40&ssGroupId=1
Yes exactly, welcome to life. Resorts are shut and aircraft are regularly grounded due to weather. Recently a fire in a ski resort bar killed many people and brought in new laws preventing pyrotechnics indoors. Are you the guy that says they chose to be indoors? Or they died because they weren't man enough? Get real.Quote:
Originally Posted by Odd
If the driver staying cool and going slow like you say gets shunted in the rear by the driver who 'manned up' and is going fast, and they get shunted off the road into the spectators stood in silly places and with many lives lost... then Monte Carlo will not run again, that is the reality. It'll be uninsurable even if the law continued to allow it especially if you were in the role and said 'everybody was acting like kindergartners'. You've delusional lack of reality that this isn't sim racing and should be ashamed of yourself.
We are hundreds or thousands of miles away and behind screens and keyboards, why you gotta argue with or known better than the people on the scene and in the roles assuming the risk who are saying it's too dangerous I don't know.
Ogier in the media zone on the Hankook tyres...
“I experienced something I never experienced in my career. Or actually, maybe I did in 2014 when I started with slicks on snow. It felt the same, maybe,” Ogier said.
“I was supposed to have studded tyres, so that’s unbelievable. I repeat this because, for me, it’s not acceptable to get a product like this in a world championship. After one year of feedback where we’ve said we need to work on this and nothing is done – just a one-centimetre cut in the middle of the tyres. That’s a joke,”
But like Porter said at the stage, how did Evans make it work for him? Did Ogier do his part in the 'we need to work on this' - like some more winter rallies and testing with Hankook?
Starting order to Leg 2 - https://rally-base.com/2026/rallye-m...imeTypeId=1784
The issue that none of you have looked at is the event time schedule.
The section with SS3 is 41.16 km total distance, 15.06 km of that is the special stage. The time allowance for the section is 0h54, so the average speed for the whole section from the stage start to TC3A is 45.7 km/h. If the speed that the cars can average on the SS is less than 45.7 km/h then they need to average more than that on the liaison section to avoid penalties for being late at TC3A. If they are more than 30 minutes late then they are retired from that day of the rally.
Cancelling the stage is not just about safety on the stage but also about safety on the liaison sections.
Have a cup of tea mate. I was actually hinting at some known motorsport heroes with my examples.
As said, it was going to be unpopular opinion with a wider picture in mind than a rally stage. Mankind need to man up in every way, if you don’t see that then good luck.
I stand corrected because the stage was not actually cancelled due fog but spectators. Other than that i stand with my opinion.
I think most fulfiled guy from yesterday is Ott Tänak, who is chilling at home, enjoying himself and doesn't need to worry about this Hyundai shitshow.
He is also probably frustrated on how Toyota wasn't interested in him, and now Solberg being so good straight away with them. Believe me, if Tanak wasn't rejected he would stay in WRC.
not just evans. they all had the same tyres for stage 2, 4 studs.Quote:
Originally Posted by WRCStan
how did solberg make it work?
All drivers on at least 4 studs, from the hankook stage report looks like the stages are very tricky with a fair amount of snow and ice.
What logic is used to creat this kind of road order? Okay, I get why Josh and Pajari go first, but why Jon is going last?Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
Same question arise in my minds...if it is restart of day1 that all drivers should start as yesterday, if not, reverse order is only logic...?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dontcut
It was in regulations - order will stay same like on Friday. Only retired crews were moved to the front.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dontcut
True. But the speed in foggy conditions isn´t 190+ kph.Quote:
Originally Posted by Walach
This will be a long day for the crews
It does my heart good to watch this morning, with the 400hp cars slipping and sliding and Ogier drifting off the road to get traction in the snow. This is the Monte I have missed the last few years.
I need to admit that it is a way more relaxed feeling to follow rallying if Tänak is not part of it. Just watching what is coming, and no worries and excitement involved.
Everyone holding their breath right now.
Ogier seems so lost with the Hankook studded tyre. Very weird
Solberg fully on it again, 5 sec fastest in split 2
Seems like they shouldn't have cancelled the full snow test day..Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Solberg did they test rally in snowy slippery conditions..
Ok seems the conditions are also getting better again for later starters
What a shame we will miss what would have been an epic Solberg-Rovanpera era. . . .
I think Rovanperä and Tänak are watching this and feeling relieved that they will not get embarrassed by Solberg :)Quote:
Originally Posted by 240RS
This is one of the most unbelievable performances I have ever seen from a driver
I don’t even care if Oliver bins it now but this has been just pure magic so far
Well, unfortunately we won’t never find this outQuote:
Originally Posted by meh
It starts to look like Loeb in his prime.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
But i'm worried that solberg might crash. There's no need for him to push this hard.
Toyota should finally realize there’s no point to keep Katsuta anymore
Untill they find a better japanese driver, Katsuta will stay. He doesn't have to be good, he just needs to be japanese.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
This is nothing short of incredible. Hats off to Oliver Solberg!
And one must remember that this is totally being done on car control, which is why Armstrong and Evans were brilliant last night too. Brilliant car control.
The onboards from SS2 last night were fantastic, watching the drivers dance with the cars in those conditions