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Is it April’s fools already?
Yes, in the rallyradio they were talking about it. Also mentioned that a possible stop mid-stage was thought about but apparently they know themselves too that that would be bad idea for road conditions as its essentially a secondary start line midstage that would create big ruts.
Also i dont remember if it was talk of FIA, but the finnish rally championship organisers that were trying to come up with these ideas. I think if you can go back in the radio broadcast it was somewhere mid stage 4 where they talked about Pietarinen having 136 kmh average speed.
That explains, if it’s just an idea for the local series. Sorry, I should have checked it before posting but I was just so shocked of the thought...
Yeah, reason for it seemed to be making normal chicanes to slow down stages require too much effort and manpower that AKK were exploring other options such as virtual chicanes to force slowdown zones on stages. I was listening to it and only recall talk about AKK being behind it and the radio ppl said they should keep trying to innovate other solutions for the problem :D
did gigigalli1s spirit possessed you ???Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
stop circulating stupid rumours... what are you ? some 12 year old special kid that cannot filter the information it receives ?
why would they do that ? they find hay balls too expensive ???
Here is something similar from Australia called "speed zone" I guess it's fine if It's in a remote area where there's not much to see anyway. Would suck a bit if it was just before a cool corner though.
No hay bales to hit at least which very often causes a lot of damage.
https://youtu.be/eXXV10bJcRQ?t=130
Holy moly, what an idea. I have even better proposition - why don't they just come with an idea that the slowest guy wins the rally. No more do they need to worry about speedtraps or speed in general....
If there is a long straight and today you would put a chicane. You can instead add electronically controlled zone where for example the car has to slow down to 60 kph at some point within given 100m zone. You'd get sound or a light that turns on once you hit that speed and after that you are free to accelerate. Obviously there would have to be small penalties for either not slowing down enough or for not slowing within the given zone.
It sounds more artificial than chicanes from hay-balls but on the positive side:
- no damage to car from hitting them
- no unfair situation when the balls get moved
- no need to address penalties for moving the balls
- no need to have people on site to both move the balls and hand out penalties to drivers
So yeah don't get all the screaming going on here. Obviously it's better to have stages that don't need slowing down.
you should hang out with gigigalli1... your IQs are a perfect match...Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
There are sometimes limited speed zones in NZ rally stages too - not to reduce average stage speeds (at least I've never heard of that) but when there are unfinished roadworks or bridge repairs etc that would be unsafe or destroyed by a hundred cars hammering over it at rally pace, they have a speed limit through that section. Think local councils probably make it a requirement for the road closing in those situations.Quote:
Originally Posted by SubaruNorway
Just start over again from square one. Use new "Group A" regulations for WRC. Standard engines, gearboxes... etz...
Just kidding... Not all ...
http://urheiluuutiset.com/gryazin-pa...s-olla-mukana/
Gryazin is planning to make his WRC(2) debut in Rally Sweden 2019 in Fabia R5
And to stop factory rumours: He will use SRT (Sports Racing Technologies) Fabia.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
June 2016 Taranaki Tarmac rally in New Zealand used virtual chicances to reduce average speeds on some long straights. Prior to event many competitors expressed doubts about how it would work, on the day it seemed to work really well. Because they were in middle of long straights it did not affect spectating opportunities. You can experience a virtual chicane between 1:19 and 1:23 of this onboard video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n44SFcXxUwMQuote:
Originally Posted by GravelBen
[QUOTE=SubaruNorway;1193194]Here is something similar from Australia called "speed zone" I guess it's fine if It's in a remote area where there's not much to see anyway. Would suck a bit if it was just before a cool corner though.
No hay bales to hit at least which very often causes a lot of damage.
Also it does less damage to the roads. This has been made much easier with the adoption of RallySafe tracking.
Australian Rally Championship regulations:
Virtual Chicane (VC): Competitors must achieve a specified minimum speed limit at some
point within a specified length of road of at least 200m. Signs must be used to indicate the start and finish of the VC. Approach warning boards are to be erected at 300m, 200m, and 100m before the VC zone. Minimum speed may be measured by CAMS approved radar speed measuring device or GPS tracking device in the car. It is the competitor’s responsibility to achieve the minimum speed in the event of a supplied GPS tracking device failing to operate correctly.
Penalties are:
(A) Lowest speed in Zone less than 5 km/h over the limit - 5 secs.
(B) Lowest speed in Zone between 5 and 10 km/h over the limit - 15 secs.
(C) Lowest speed in Zone more than 10 km/h over the limit - 60 secs.
The Stewards may determine such other penalties as may be deemed fit, in addition to the penalties outlined above.
Ah yes, not too intrusive and at least its the same for everyone which doesn't always happen with haybale chicanes. I bow to your superior knowledge of rally trivia! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by KiwiWRCfan
Funny the rules are very much what I wrote without ever hearing about it.
I don't get what's wrong with ordinary chicanes. They only do damage if you hit them, just like every other obstacle on a rally stage.
At least a chicane keeps the rally spirit of driving around things as fast as possible without hitting them.
It seems Rally de Portugal will be held in June (first weekend).
https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/1...-getting-crazy
Still no 2019 calendar
we already knew that we have wait for that Council meeting
Nothing much to know really, Imho Australia will get back to it's September slot, Wales end of November, Turkey stays & Chile & Japan are probably in. Only questions left unanswered, who will be dropped- Corsica or Germany? and what will happen with Sardegna?
If Portugal is run in early June, the place of Sardegna, would this imply that Chile is added between Mexico and Argentina, pushing Corsica into mid-May?Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
Belgian Speed magazine came with an interesting article today. Although it's based on rumours and a lot of ifs, this is what they say:
R5 might be allowed to take points for the manufacturers next year.
Skoda might consider to register als a manufacturer from next year already.
This rule could also be interesting for Citroën if they continue with 2 cars.
They also link Lappi and Veiby to Citroën
It's not certain M-Sport will register as manufacturer next year.
Sardegna is going to be run ONE week ahead of this year. Words from the organiser himself.
Imho, you're right, Chile will be added between Mexico & Argentina but Corsica might be out, we'll know more next week.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
What would be the advantage for Skoda registering for the manufacturers championship?.. since with only an R5 car they would almost certainly finish last.Quote:
Originally Posted by dupanton
I can see how it could work for MSport or Citroen running an R5 as the third car.
Not in Turkey haha
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The @TourdeCorseWRC is maintained in #WRC en 2019 (28-31 march) Publication of the calendar tomorrow with 15 rounds to the program!
https://twitter.com/RallyeSport/stat...37674018975747
germany out then? what a BS
If it is a 15 round calendar as quoted then probably all rounds 2018 + chile + japanQuote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
yes it seems 15 Rallyes in 2019 nobody dropped out ► http://bit.ly/2CaeB6D
First time in a long time the Calendar is getting longer...wow, 15 rounds, will be crazy.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbmarcus21
No Japan for next year, I'm hearing
Yep http://dlvr.it/Qn3341
Autosport understands that the WRC manufacturers were told that next year's rise to a 14th event would not cost them anything in terms of logistics, with Chile and Japan both footing the bill for taking the series to their countries.
The teams will now be forced to find extra budget for the return to Corsica.
Lol
That journalist is a Brit who goes by the name of David Evans. Of course Ogier won't go to Citroen, Meeke won't be at Toyota and Japan will be in the WRC...
Why is the FIA pushing so hard for Corsica to remain? I assume certain people have certain personal interests in making sure it's still on the calendar.
Surely with Toyota so heavily invested and rumours of Mitsubishi in talks - this is surely the sport shooting itself in the foot by dropping Japan...
14
first ones will be
MC, S, MEX, TdC, ARG, CHL, POR, ITA,...
[QUOTE=Simmi;1194885]Why is the FIA pushing so hard for Corsica to remain? I assume certain people have certain personal interests in making sure it's still on the calendar.
Thank God!!!!! Every time they have to make up some space for new rounds the tarmac ones always get the short end of the stick:angryfire There are so few of them...
Was really looking forward to have Chile and Japan on-board. Japan on tarmac would be great, a round in asia that pleases Toyota.
Personally feel Sardinia had to go but it seems like it was only between Corsica and Germany, and between those two it had to be Corsica imo. Shame if that remains over Japan.
If Japan are covering the costs though, why can't they just run 15 rounds including Corsica and Japan, instead of 14 rounds with Corsica and no Japan? Sounds like it's Corsica that is the problem budget-wise, not Japan who foot the bill.