Rally Sweden 14-17 FEB 2019

https://rallysweden.com/wp-content/u...letin-no-2.pdf
Bulletin 2

All P1 and P2P will be required to complete their first passage of Shakedown in order of classification in the Championship.
(WRC + WRC2PRO drivers)

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Originally Posted by cali

Myrvold, I have been many times in Rally Sweden and visited those arena stages. Maybe it is just me and my friends but we're never going back to those "Arena places". Just horrible.

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Agreed, However, while I'm usually several KM's from the end of the stage, I've seen more and more people around "my" spot as the of the stage gets more and more "arena"-like.

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Originally Posted by AnttiL

Likenäs has also the rallycross part in the beginning, that counts as an arena, right?

In Finland we also have these large official spectator areas which an be considered as arenas, the most famous of them the Kakaristo junction. For sure it's nice for the casual fan or a tourist, but for the hardcore fans it's better to pick a quieter place in the forest. Like cali said, it's more of a festival, lots of drunk people who don't even care so much for the competition...

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Seemingly not, at least it hasn't before, and isn't this year.

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Originally Posted by AnttiL

The long term forecasts are still to be changed, but let's speculate. Right now it looks like there won't be snowfall during the whole rally week, especially not during Friday. If we assume we get some plus degrees and rain on the weekend, then some -8°C days before the rally and no fresh snow, that would mean a good ice base for the roads. This would favour the first car on the road, right? The studs would have a direct contact to the ice, whereas all the next cars would have to deal with various amounts of loose snow/slush on top of the ice?

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I'll admit, I don't hope for -8 during Thursday and Friday night... I plan to sleep outside in a hammock, so I would prefer the temperatures to be closer to 0 :D

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Originally Posted by tpt010

I have not received mine. I sent query about that today, but no reply yet.

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Received week ago. Estonia.

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Originally Posted by linni

Received week ago. Estonia.

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Not in Belgium!

They told me:

I’m really, really sorry for this but we seems to have messed this up a little bit.

I have two solutions to offer by now:

Either we send the package to where you are staying in Sweden

or I’ll add you to the list which allow you to pick them up at any of the Rally-sites from our staff.

What would you prefer?

https://www.yr.no/place/Sweden/V%C3%...rsby/long.html

Now the forecasts are again giving more plus degrees, for all of Thursday and for the warmest points of Friday and Saturday.

Disclaimer: I'm not afraid they will cancel the rally. It will just affect the conditions. If it's like this then we'll see more gravel on the second runs.

We didn't receive the rally guide either, but called two days ago and apparently it will arrive now on Monday due to an error. Very apologetic, let's see if it arrives.

Does anyone know if the lake near Colin's Crest will be open for cars this year?

Well, beacuse of the thick snowlayer, cold can`t reach the ice/water and it`s quite thin this season. i`d guess no.

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Originally Posted by AnttiL

https://www.yr.no/place/Sweden/V%C3%...rsby/long.html

Now the forecasts are again giving more plus degrees, for all of Thursday and for the warmest points of Friday and Saturday.

Disclaimer: I'm not afraid they will cancel the rally. It will just affect the conditions. If it's like this then we'll see more gravel on the second runs.

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Perfect weather for sleeping in a hammock though!

Previews

Citroen https://media.citroenracing.com/en/c...k=6824dbbb7069
Toyota https://toyotagazooracing.com/wrc/re...2/preview.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrUAfnwtazE
Hyundai https://motorsport.hyundai.com/snow-...-rally-sweden/
M-sport - TBA

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Originally Posted by AnttiL

https://www.yr.no/place/Sweden/V%C3%...rsby/long.html

Now the forecasts are again giving more plus degrees, for all of Thursday and for the warmest points of Friday and Saturday.

Disclaimer: I'm not afraid they will cancel the rally. It will just affect the conditions. If it's like this then we'll see more gravel on the second runs.

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wow...+8 for thursday

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Originally Posted by Tauri_J

wow...+8 for thursday

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Minus 1 on Thursday in Svullrya so i hope that its a better sign for the stages /:

About to change for sure.

Rammen stages this morning https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...7f50ea0638.jpg

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yup, ice layer is very thin this year. Thursday's gonna be brutal, warmest day of the week. But monday-tuesday looks to be chilly. Maybe watering the roads is an option like in 2016?

Oh dear, doesn't look good in those pics at all

Wednesday and Thursday will be brutal, especially if there's nothing (i.e. ice) covering the road surface at that point. The minus degrees on Thursday evening and the following night could save a lot though. Fingers crossed.

Minusdegrees during all nights though. Will be icy gravel. Let´s see how much snow on snowbanks that will last throughout the weekend...

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Originally Posted by EstWRC

Previews

Citroen https://media.citroenracing.com/en/c...k=6824dbbb7069
Toyota https://toyotagazooracing.com/wrc/re...2/preview.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrUAfnwtazE
Hyundai https://motorsport.hyundai.com/snow-...-rally-sweden/
M-sport - TBA

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M-sport https://www.m-sport.co.uk/single-pos...WINTER-CLASSIC

Wow that Rammen stage looks pretty horrible already. How does it compare to 2016? When many stages were cancelled?

I just hope that they can run the rally, no matter if it is bit slushy. Just a shame since it looked so nice few weeks ago :(

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Originally Posted by masa90

Wow that Rammen stage looks pretty horrible already. How does it compare to 2016? When many stages were cancelled?
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It looks like there was a little bit more snow in 2016! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IL1i1XJzNUU)

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Originally Posted by ruesluporp

It looks like there was a little bit more snow in 2016! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IL1i1XJzNUU)

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It's quite a lot more in the terrain this year, reason Lesjöfors was cancelled in 2016 was that the 10-15cm deep ruts in the gravel froze before they had time to scrape it, I'm sure there would have been no problem to run all stages twice in the end.
I checked the weather in 2016 and it was 10-15 days of around +5 then so i think it should be fine this year.

Linuscooler
Picture from SS10/13 Hagfors yesterday...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dy5Rwq_XcAEK6QY.jpg:large

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Originally Posted by DocMS

Rammen stages this morning https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...7f50ea0638.jpg

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I am not sure this is correct image... I have followed around 10 stations in the region all night, it was basically snowing everywhere overnight except Karsltad, some light rain near noon for some stages... Conditions in Sunday and Friday stages should look very good right now, a bit less good on Saturday stages, but this image does not look right.. And the image was posted.. before it was actually taken?

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Originally Posted by bluuford

I am not sure this is correct image... I have followed around 10 stations in the region all night, it was basically snowing everywhere overnight except Karsltad, some light rain near noon for some stages... Conditions in Sunday and Friday stages should look very good right now, a bit less good on Saturday stages, but this image does not look right.. And the image was posted.. before it was actually taken?

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This image that was posted on Swedish Facebook page at 9.40 gmt so 10.40 Swedish time.

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These stage image's are all posted on ; https://www.facebook.com/groups/Enth...ofRallySweden/

There are also pictures from Hagfors and unfortunately they look similar

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Originally Posted by satnav

These stage image's are all posted on ; https://www.facebook.com/groups/Enth...ofRallySweden/

There are also pictures from Hagfors and unfortunately they look similar

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OK, clear, seems that they have ploughed that stage in the morning (you can clearly see if you compare some images), this is not so good idea, I would say :/ Some tyre management is needed on Saturday ;)

Well they cant leave it unploughed, locals obviously want to use the roads

Also Ogier would be complaining too much, and nobody wants that.

Or just use a roller to pack it hard, hopefully they will with the wet snow tomorrow night

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Originally Posted by bluuford

I am not sure this is correct image... I have followed around 10 stations in the region all night, it was basically snowing everywhere overnight except Karsltad, some light rain near noon for some stages... Conditions in Sunday and Friday stages should look very good right now, a bit less good on Saturday stages, but this image does not look right.. And the image was posted.. before it was actually taken?

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Reminds me of 2004, when 3 days before the rally it was all covered in snow but then this happened....and Loeb won....

Thanks for all the help regarding staying warm-ish on pages 19/20, much appreciated!

If it stays at +5 staying warm will be no problem, you will probably be too hot walking into the stages most of the time ;)
Looks like it might be like it was in 2014
https://youtu.be/LoKjLyWaRKg

Weather will not be optimal, but no fear of cancellation?

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Originally Posted by masa90

Weather will not be optimal, but no fear of cancellation?

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I really doubt that they will cancel the entire rally. Possibly they might not allow the historic cars in some stages or just run the first loop one some stages. It's a bit too early to say though.

Everybody needs to calm down, during the nights the forecast says -2 to -6 or even colder, and with rain now there will be a ok ice-base.
Only thing that is sad and a bit worrying is the lack of snowbanks and/or thin icelayer for 2nd runs🥺

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Originally Posted by Entertainer

Only thing that is sad and a bit worrying is the lack of snowbanks and/or thin icelayer for 2nd runs��

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Many of the spectators won't even remember there was a 2nd loop the day after, so no issue for them. :)

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Originally Posted by SubaruNorway

If it stays at +5 staying warm will be no problem, you will probably be too hot walking into the stages most of the time ;)

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Good point!

Every year same damn shit. A week before or after the rally the conditions are perfect but at rally weekend it turns to mess.

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Originally Posted by SubaruNorway

If it stays at +5 staying warm will be no problem, you will probably be too hot walking into the stages most of the time ;)
Looks like it might be like it was in 2014
https://youtu.be/LoKjLyWaRKg

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2014 lesjeförs was full gravel, but they still drove it twice. Hope they can run whole rally this year!