Was thinking the same Dave, terrible quality.
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Was thinking the same Dave, terrible quality.
Anyone see the interview with Alonso yesterday? The question was something along the lines of what he thought his strengths are as a driver, and he replied that he thinks he's very consistent, though he might not be the fastest, most talented or toughest/hardest working driver. Remarkable modesty from a guy with 2 world championships.
That was an interview worth keeping in mind :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyL
I thought the BBC did another great job of coverage this weekend. The post-race coverage went on for over half an hour and included comment from Stefano Dominicalli, Martin Whitmarsh and others! They seem to take the coverage more seriously than ITV. They give the race justice and don't rush their coverage. Its really laid back. Though, to nitpick, that was arguably the worst of Martin Brundle's grid walks I've ever seen.
I'm glad to see the BBC are doing the coverage 'properly' although this is their first year and they want to show off, I hope they aren't subject to cut backs for next years season.
Much of the coverage is like ITV did it, as I think they mostly got it right in the end. Of course it's without adverts (and consequently annoying break bumpers) and without plugs for silly competitions.
BBC has been great, Leggard is pants, he has to go....
To no-one's great surprise, the BBC has an unchanged line up this year. On the plus side, they're continuing their excellent Red Button coverage of practice sessions, and the post race forum.
Details: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/7755219.stm
If it aint broke, dont fix it.Quote:
Originally Posted by christophulus
The red button coverage of free practice was the one feature that was most welcomed by me and the F1 Forum was a great addition too, nice to see that they'll both be staying.
I'm happy that their cast is unchanged bar Legard, who I wish they would replace. But, he may have improved for this season. We will see.
agreed-i hope leggard improves, but the rest of the beeb coverage is top notch (and leggard grew on me last year but he could still be alot better for sure)Quote:
Originally Posted by 52Paddy
cant wait till that opening intro for the bahrain grand prix-when the racing returns!
dun dun dun, dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun................
I shall be building a new subwoofer specifically for that purpose :DQuote:
Originally Posted by UltimateDanGTR
:D good luck with that :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Brockman
Theres nothing wrong with Legard
I decided to switch to BBC last season (being curious at first) instead of looking at the usual Dutch broadcast, mostly because it's much more in depth and BBC's broadcast is a lot longer too (and without commercials!). So, I'm sure to follow F1 on BBC again this year.
While I'm not a fan of Jonathan Legard either, luckily it's compensated well with the precense of Martin Brundle.
Could it finally be?! We actually have F1 broadcasts in the UK that the majority of people are happy with? :s hock:
I still think Legard is the weak link, but that's only because everything else about the coverage is so good. I do find myself tuning him out, and there's always the option of 5 Live commentary.
Even EJ's grown on me, in a kind of weird way. Love him or loath him, he's good for sparking debate.
:D Isn't it usually "...after I discovered him, and before he got stolen by Flavio" :DQuote:
Originally Posted by henners88
I can't like Eddy....he's an idiot. DC I thougt was fantastic - calm, assured, interesting insights. Eddy was the opposite.
Legard is certainly not as good but lets give him a chance it was his first year transitioning from radio so hopefully 2010 will see him get better. And Brundle is still Brundle...class act.
I have to agree with you here henners. EJ is an idiot in many respects. During 2009, I had to cringe at least once at every race meeting at something EJ would say. He created so much tension, as if he hadn't a clue how to deliver himself - like driving straight off a cliff edge at some points! But, being slightly biased of course, his character is ultimately Irish. I thought it was brilliant when he literally grabbed Schumacher by the arm in the pit lane at one of last season's later races and dragged him over for interview. DC and Jake were like "Bloody hell! I didn't mean for him to literally go over and force Schumacher over for interview!!"Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
I think Eddie's warts and all approach to the programme, like him or loathe him, is healthy. I like it when there's someone to make you bury your face in your hands and have you blush in embarrassment for him :cheese:
:D Yes I think Eddie got a few interviews for the BBC that someone more polite would not have got. Somehow I find myself imagining Eddie whispering in Schumacher's ear: "come with me for an interview, Michael, or you'll find 20 tons of concrete blocking your drive tomorrow morning." ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by 52Paddy
hehe. The advantage the BBC has is that, not only is it world renouned just for being the BBC. But they have the likes of Jordan, Coulthard and Brundle who know everyone in F1 because they've been involved in it for years. They can literally walk up to the likes of Ecclestone or Schumacher and start asking them questions, whereas some no name presenter that's been parachuted in wouldn't stand a chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyL
True although Jake Humphrey, while not exactly a "nobody", wasn't known in the paddock before last year and he had no problems in that regard. In fact I'd go as far as to say that Jake was one of the strongest parts of the BBC's coverage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
and, Martin Brundle can also just walz up and push infront of the german sky presenters! :D well done him I say!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
Jake was great last season I would also like to add. and whilst EJ is a bit of an idiot, I do like him because he and DC provide good banter, which I think is a very helpful thing for the overall viewers enjoyment.
I must admit, James Allen is great when he is writing articles though, very good insights.
The BBC's coverage was excellent, and their website is getting blogs, articles and interviews from testing and the car launches already, great stuff.
Jake was on very good form again on the Superbowl coverage, and I hope they will do an even better job of the F1 coverage in 2010 :)
would be nice if they covered testing. that would be the icing on the cake.
I get to watch their coverage when I can online. especially the qualy (since Speed tv is on a 12 minute delay...why? I don't know) and some FP's and the occasional race when speed tv acquiesces to the horrible delayed Fox coverage ofr a few races. And of course in replays later.
I like their coverage .EJ is a bit of a character and is often teetering on the border of appropriateness. his back and forth with DC is also enjoyable with Dc always coming off as the reasonable one reigning in EJ.
Brundle to me is the class of all F1 broadcasters today and is the most enjoyable aspect of watching the BBC coverage. to me James Allen is fine. Sometimes too passionate for the brits, but hey this is the BBC not eurosport right?
EJ has added an extra dimension and dare I say better than Brundle's grid walks these days. With a guy like EJ he can grab anyone in the paddock regardless such as running into the Ferrari to twist Schumi's arm and made a dull red flagged qualy session worth watching and pop into a random garage to show an example of a spring that hit Massa's head.
Just a heads-up: there's a 45 minute preview show currently looping on the red button (satellite and cable), and I believe it'll be appearing on the BBC website from Monday :up:
cheers for that. any idea how long the current loop has been on for?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Brockman
As I type this I think there's only a few minutes before it starts again.
Sweet, i'll give that a peekQuote:
Originally Posted by Dave Brockman
Just 45 minutes of Humphrey with Legard, Brundle, EJ and Coulthard in discussion, mostly about Schumacher, the new team's chances, rule changes and Jenson v Lewis
Also on the new team debate, part of me thought that by the way he was discussing it that DC sort of agrees with Massa and LdM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Brockman
Cheers :)
i remember ITV used to do a proper 1 hour season preview 1 week before every season on ITV1, shame the BBC havnt done the same, although the discussion was interesting they could've put in some extra features.
still, the actual season stuff is most important, and the beeb know how to do that at its very best
Preview on the red button if you have sky, Eastenders quiz if you only have freeview :mad: :mad:
I was watching the BBCi discussion and one thing I always find annoys me, is when a presenter (Jake in this case) says something along the lines of...
"well all the people at home want to know is about the main rule changes..."
and when talking about the problems of carrying a full tank of fuel, and its affect on tyres and brakes
"The people at home probably just think its a case of carrying more weight"
So this always makes me on edge as I think to myself
"Some of us at home do have quite a knowledge of the sport, we do not all need to be talked down to"
Even more so when on BBCi and probably only loyal fans are watching, I just feel they could be a bit more in depth on these sort of broadcasts.
Sorry about the long rant, just gets to me.
well said and it's just not on BBC its all over and in many sports. I too find that annoying. Especially when it comes to F1 I think the average F1 fan just by pure osmosis is fairly well educated on the intricacies of the sport and would probably enjoy more technical stuff or a more detailed/mature conversation.Quote:
Originally Posted by aki13
The folks at Speed TV are pretty good about not doing this and if they think it gets too technical ,they at least break it down in an adult way without coming off as arrogant or talking down.
It was a decent discussion. You weren't paying attention. He mentioned Bahrain would be a place where looking after the brakes would become an issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by aki13
It was a good informal atmosphere instead of lecturing infront of the camera and explaining to retards.
Sorry for the rant. Just wish it could be like NASCAR TV production. The best we've got is fancy CGI and EJ nicking a spring from a random garage.
The majority of the BBC audience probably don't know all about it though...I certainly don't. Not all of us want to spent our winter reading F1 websites to find out what's going on and if a motorsport fan like me isn't bothered then Joe Bloggs cheering on Button certainly won't know. I wouldn't be too surprised if this programme spreads to the main show at the weekend.Quote:
Originally Posted by aki13
I think that BBC, and even ITV, have generally struck a good balance between F1 nerds and general viewing public, if you want to be talked down to then just have a listen to Paul King on the WRC coverage.
Sat and watched this last night and enjoyed it, largely because it was a relaxed informal "chat" about the season ahead. A bit like a few F1 fans being down the pub looking forward to the start of the season :)Quote:
Originally Posted by wedge
One of the strengths of the BBC coverage has been their use of the red button with the post race forum, and this preview was along those lines with more being promised this year. It's all the better for being (apparently) unscripted IMHO.
Outta the way - I'm gonna puke :bonce:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Jan Yeo
Agreed I think James Allen is a good writer but he didn't work on TV.Quote:
Originally Posted by woody2goody
The BBC's ace is Brundle...his knowledge, his approach, his attitude.