Do Alonso get paid from Ferrari/others to thrash mclaren?

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24th October 2007, 05:30
rohanweb

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Originally Posted by Dylan H

For someone who tried to blackmail his own team (a criminal offence) Alonso got treated extremely well by McLaren!

some common sense still prevails here..
cheers Dylan.

I would probably taken to court and sacked by my employer if i ever blackmail my company, who pays me real monies to do the job.

probably in spain where Alonso come from its perfectly normal to thrash & blackmail your company, may be its because you feel some of your fellow colleague done a better job than him and you are dieing of jealousy..why not bring the company in to a laughing stock... yeh right!!!

Long live Spain & Alonso
24th October 2007, 05:38
raikk

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Originally Posted by kusha

When a team like McLaren, suposed to be one of the greatest in F1 history say that they prefer one racer than other, shows they are not having equality. When, like in China, Ron Dennis said they were fighting against Alonso and that he did prefer Kimi to win than Alonso...¿How the hell is defending Alonso in McLaren?. ¿How the hell is McLaren defending their interests?. Ron Dennis has made an horrible season. ¿How can Alonso run with people in his Team prefering an other Team racer to win?.

McLaren is British, Ron Dennis is British, Ecclestone is British... In some FIA discussions like the Safety Car problem, one of the referees was British and decided not to penalize LH. In that situation, that referee might not have been there. But this is FIAsco maFIA. No British has win F1 in 11 seasons, that's a fact. They want and need a title, but ¿With extra help?. This is not serious. If FA has talked, is just because he is and feels alone and really damaged with some FIA and McLaren decissions. If you work in a factory and you receive the same treat as FA has received in McLaren, YOU ALL very long time ago would have changed your jobs. But FA is a professional. He has continued racing, fighting against FIA, McLaren, Ron Dennis, Hamilton..., and even has kept 3º only 1pt behind Kimi. ¡That shows FA is the greatest racer in the world!. I wonder what would have Hamilton done in a Minardi, Super Aguri or Spyker this season, or what would have happened if FIA would have done his job seriously.

Link!
24th October 2007, 05:42
rohanweb

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Originally Posted by wmcot

One more time (hopefully the last time!) It is ILLEGAL to POSSESS STOLEN MATERIAL! Stepney did not have permission or authority to give away technical data. That means he stole it. That means that when it was found in possession of a McLaren employee, it was illegal!

The example used over and over is something like this: If I work for a bank and I "give" you $100,000, do you think the police will visit you? Perhaps they will let you keep the money, after all, it was "given" to you!!

Is that simple enough to understand?

so for an eg: you have a company with 100 employees, and 1 of them got a business file from some other company.. and how on earth your company gets penalised as a whole ?

its a criminal activity which had happened inbetween a ferrari employee and a mclaren employee.. and these two culprits to be taken to court and not the teams as a whole. ..its a real shame this has happened, the verdict from fia has given oppurtunities for all the teams to 'makeup' something like,befriend some guy from the teams across and share an email then bring on a case that 'data's been stealed by other team and work along securing 'championships' like this..Ferrari are very clever people.. we do know this very well. i suspect this is an inside job of Ferrari to bring mclaren in to disrepute, if mclaren were given possible 2 year racing ban, it would be good enough for them to have 'runaway' victories to win championships ( specially at the absent of MS ferrari needed some cunning ways to cover the gap)

I wonder why they kept the mclaren drivers on to the championship because FIA couldnt find any real proof that mclaren were actually using ferrari's data in thier cars, if they would have..then we wouldnt have seen both cars are racing till the end..

btw if Mr.Alonso requested details like weight distribution etc through sms (lol) then ferrari should have taken him to court also..so we have 3 suspects.
24th October 2007, 06:46
wmcot

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Originally Posted by rohanweb

so for an eg: you have a company with 100 employees, and 1 of them got a business file from some other company.. and how on earth your company gets penalised as a whole ?

its a criminal activity which had happened inbetween a ferrari employee and a mclaren employee.. and these two culprits to be taken to court and not the teams as a whole. ..its a real shame this has happened, the verdict from fia has given oppurtunities for all the teams to 'makeup' something like,befriend some guy from the teams across and share an email then bring on a case that 'data's been stealed by other team and work along securing 'championships' like this..Ferrari are very clever people.. we do know this very well. i suspect this is an inside job of Ferrari to bring mclaren in to disrepute, if mclaren were given possible 2 year racing ban, it would be good enough for them to have 'runaway' victories to win championships ( specially at the absent of MS ferrari needed some cunning ways to cover the gap)

I wonder why they kept the mclaren drivers on to the championship because FIA couldnt find any real proof that mclaren were actually using ferrari's data in thier cars, if they would have..then we wouldnt have seen both cars are racing till the end..

btw if Mr.Alonso requested details like weight distribution etc through sms (lol) then ferrari should have taken him to court also..so we have 3 suspects.

Let's stop this right here. The whole thing has been beaten to death in another thread for the past few months. I don't think any opinions have been changed on either side.

Back on topic - Has Alonso been paid to trash McLaren? No. I'm sure he would gladly do it for free!
24th October 2007, 10:57
ShiftingGears

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Originally Posted by rohanweb

clearly he is no match for Lewis's talent..

As the results CLEARLY suggest...
24th October 2007, 11:01
Daniel

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Originally Posted by theugsquirrel

As the results CLEARLY suggest...

:rotflmao: I'm better than Kimi cos I says so :D
24th October 2007, 11:05
leopard

they are tied at the same points, what was the judgment of that no match ¿
24th October 2007, 11:23
ioan

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Originally Posted by leopardsleeping

they are tied at the same points, what was the judgment of that no match ¿

Nationality!
24th October 2007, 11:41
Donney

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Originally Posted by rohanweb

some common sense still prevails here..
cheers Dylan.

I would probably taken to court and sacked by my employer if i ever blackmail my company, who pays me real monies to do the job.

probably in spain where Alonso come from its perfectly normal to thrash & blackmail your company, may be its because you feel some of your fellow colleague done a better job than him and you are dieing of jealousy..why not bring the company in to a laughing stock... yeh right!!!

Long live Spain & Alonso

Would you mind leaving Spain out of your twisted train of thought?

Thank you.
24th October 2007, 12:11
Daniel

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Originally Posted by Donney

Would you mind leaving Spain out of your twisted train of thought?

Thank you.

Of course Spain somehow wants a Finn to win rather than a Brit. At least that's what my girlfriend's best friends' sisters husbands brothers wife's unborn child's gerbil told me :)

All in a dream of course :)

P.S I don't see how countries come into this at all really.

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