FIA offical checking McLaren equality*Merged*

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Originally Posted by Ari

There's a saying of old "where there's smoke, there's fire".

Ron went on last week to discuss how it was US vs HIM re LH and FA.

It doesn't surprise me that the FIA have appointed someone to overlook the whole thing for the final round.

Honestly, I reckon FA would probably get a fairer run and some more love from the Ferrari pit in the final round.

I just find it hilarious that people here are still trying to convince themselves there's nothing happening. What a bunch of f***ing sheep some of you are!!!!

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Baaaaaa, I don't know what you mean, Baaaaaaaa

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Originally Posted by Ari

There's a saying of old "where there's smoke, there's fire".

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Especially when the FIA are working the smoke machine!

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Originally Posted by fandango

(And Dave, Irvine is officially British)

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Gee, thanks for reminding us....

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Originally Posted by seppefan

Does the FIA really have the power to become involved in the various teams to the extent they are this season?

The situation in Hungary was an inter team scenario, nothing to do with the FIA and yet they became involved. Is that because Moseley sees it as his right, does the FIA really have this kind of power? which in my book is over the top and miss placed

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I think when Alonso stopped for those extra 10 seconds to block Lewis, it went further than being a team scenario. However, we have had a very long discussion on this point, so I see little point in dwelling on it now.

But I will agree with Arrows above that the FIA appear to be buggering up an outstanding season this year by going into such antics. I sincerely hope that Vettel takes Alonso out and thus end this conspiracy nonsense.

I think that between the FIA and Alonso`s constant whinging this season has been turned into a joke. For years while Schumacher was at Ferrari he was given number one status and many races were blatantly "fixed" in his favour as far back as when Eddie Irvine was his team mate. Did the FIA ever appoint an independant scrutineer in the Ferrari garge to ensure no bias toward Schumacher? I think not.. Does this now mean that Massa will complain also to the FIA about Kimi`s number one staus and get his contract torn up??
It`s about time Alonso stopped moaning. He is the current world champion that does not give him an automatic right to number one staus within the team, he knew this when he signed the contract. His problem is that he probably thought that he could easily out race Lewis, but Lewis has taken the race to him and got the upper hand. If you want to be number one then prove it where it counts most, not moan your way to the title....

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Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1

Better still. Why don't the FIA cancel the Brazilian GP and meet in Paris to decide who they want to win the WDC. Of course they could invite the heads of certain motorsport federations to help them decide.

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We all know who is the preferred one in that case, enough to red Bernie's comments.

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Originally Posted by ioan

We all know who is the preferred one in that case, enough to red Bernie's comments.

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As much as the FIA, this (sorry, but) pathetic blathering on about how Hamilton is being "favoured" is beyond laughable.

The internet is a wonderful thing, but it does allow any old rubbish to be aired at times. Once it's been aired, it's discussed and debated, even as if it were fact sometimes. It's not.

If Lewis Hamilton wins the WDC this year it will be 1) a remarkable achievement for a rookie 2) deserved, and 3) hard fought for against a 2xWDC driving the same car. It will not be because an FIA official decided on the outcome.

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Originally Posted by ioan

We all know who is the preferred one in that case, enough to red Bernie's comments.

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Is that a clue Ioan?

Just when i thought i was the only cazy nut case paranoid... whatever, drinking too much of my own kool aid, i wake this morning to find all this:

My oh my

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Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1

Better still. Why don't the FIA cancel the Brazilian GP and meet in Paris to decide who they want to win the WDC. Of course they could invite the heads of certain motorsport federations to help them decide.

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Opps...there you go, careful :D :D

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Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1

Especially when the FIA are working the smoke machine!

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SO deep down inside, the kool aid has failed to leave you completely blinded, and you seem to see the truth :D

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

Gee, thanks for reminding us....

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Originally Posted by ioan

We all know who is the preferred one in that case, enough to red Bernie's comments.

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You mean read....??? Like all those interviews and off the cuff coments since Australia??

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Originally Posted by Enchanter

This way RD can restore his "integrity", as, IF LH beats FA, he can claim it was done without interfering with FA in any way, hence the "legendary" equality.

Of course there is enough time to subtly "tweak" FA's car in the run up to the race on Sunday, and surely, the FIA delegate would require a working knowledge of the McLaren teams engineering / operations in order to detect anything foul?

I was also under the impression that said FIA delegate was there at RD's invitation, and not in an official FIA capacity??

Cheers,

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Of course, that is why i wondered just what some 'official" would be looking or doing anyway....

Apparently there will now be two, the Spanard and the appointed or annoited "special Scrutineer" (which is why Max called me yesterday...as I reported earlier) :D No doubt he will be a proper brit who knows what to do to take care of "the good of the sport"....

(Funny thing is I think that Feddie might get the WDC, but what he deserves is a felony conviction for blackmail, assuming what RD said is only half-true..but that would be off topic)

However, to parphrase a certain movie....Just when I thought it could not really get any weirder than what my own "sicko" imagination could produce after mucho smoking and thought no one could beat old markabilly in the insanity race (please see http://www.motorsportforums.com/foru...d.php?t=121959), well,


"I give you the FIA""


Thanks to maxie and the FIA, I know now that I am not alone...... :beer:

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Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1

If Lewis Hamilton wins the WDC this year it will be 1) a remarkable achievement for a rookie 2) deserved, and 3) hard fought for against a 2xWDC driving the same car. It will not be because an FIA official decided on the outcome.

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I agree with that. However, I think that equality sometimes needs pro-active bias to be really equal. Back in the days of Hakkinen and Coulthard at McLaren, there was that famous time when DC moved over to let Hakkinen win in Australia. While the team then maintained equality, I think DC often felt that the imbalance of the Aus GP was never rectified, mostly due to Hakkinen being in with a chance of the title. So is that equal treatment?

Now, people are quick to draw conclusions about Alonso's so called blackmailing of his team. They condemn him for threatening to do something, which we've all done in heated moments. But we don't know exactly what Alonso wanted, and my own belief is that he wanted things re-balanced properly after he was the one who lost out due to Hamilton's disobeying of team orders.

I reckon Alonso probably is as mad and paranoid as people say, but that doesn't make him a villain, and ultimately the responsibility lies with Ron Dennis for allowing things to get out of hand. I'm sure Alonso suffered at the start of the season when he saw Hamilton's pace, but it was at Monaco that this all went silly, when Hamilton was supposedly held back.