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11th March 2013, 19:08
Garry Walker

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Originally Posted by steveaki13

I personally believe there must be life elsewhere in the universe, maybe not very intellegent life but still life.

Considering just how huge universe really is, then it would be arrogant to think we are the most intelligent species in that. I am sure there are many species somewhere out there, tens of times more intelligent and advanced than us. Just imagine - Milky Way in itself contains maybe 200-300 billion stars and there are about 100 billion galaxies like that. The amount is just so awesome and enourmous one cannot really comprehend it. So I am sure there is much more intelligent life out there than we can ever imagine. I am sure if there was a ranking for the top 1000 most intelligent species in the whole universe, we would not make that list.

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Originally Posted by Knock-on

What really irritates me is the way 'civilised' countries keep pumping aid into the same old famine hit areas year after year. All that happens is that hundreds of thousands of people are kept in famine limbo without being forced to either leave for better areas or die. It strikes me as very cruel to artificially sustain people on a land that cannot provide for them.

Completely agree.
11th March 2013, 19:15
Zico

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Originally Posted by Garry Walker

I am sure if there was a ranking for the top 1000 most intelligent species in the whole universe, we would not make that list.

If there are so many other 'species' out there.. and that intelligent, I'm just really disappointed that they haven't bothered to pop by this wee planet to say hello. ;)
11th March 2013, 19:22
Garry Walker

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Originally Posted by Zico

If there are so many other 'species' out there.. and that intelligent, I'm just really disappointed that they haven't bothered to pop by this wee planet to say hello. ;)

Considering the size of universe, that is no surprise.
11th March 2013, 19:23
steveaki13

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Originally Posted by Garry Walker

Considering just how huge universe really is, then it would be arrogant to think we are the most intelligent species in that. I am sure there are many species somewhere out there, tens of times more intelligent and advanced than us. Just imagine - Milky Way in itself contains maybe 200-300 billion stars and there are about 100 billion galaxies like that. The amount is just so awesome and enourmous one cannot really comprehend it. So I am sure there is much more intelligent life out there than we can ever imagine. I am sure if there was a ranking for the top 1000 most intelligent species in the whole universe, we would not make that list.

I was a bit cautious in my first post, but I too am 100% sure there is a good amount of life out there.

Probably even not that far away.
11th March 2013, 19:25
steveaki13

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Originally Posted by Zico

If there are so many other 'species' out there.. and that intelligent, I'm just really disappointed that they haven't bothered to pop by this wee planet to say hello. ;)

If the life that is likely was close this might be the case, but as Garry said. Intellegence cant change the law of physics (that we know of) and to travel the distances covering the universe you would need to be much faster than light, which is in all likelyhood not possible.

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Originally Posted by Garry Walker

Considering the size of universe, that is no surprise.
11th March 2013, 19:31
Brown, Jon Brow

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Originally Posted by Garry Walker

Considering just how huge universe really is, then it would be arrogant to think we are the most intelligent species in that. I am sure there are many species somewhere out there, tens of times more intelligent and advanced than us. Just imagine - Milky Way in itself contains maybe 200-300 billion stars and there are about 100 billion galaxies like that. The amount is just so awesome and enourmous one cannot really comprehend it. So I am sure there is much more intelligent life out there than we can ever imagine. I am sure if there was a ranking for the top 1000 most intelligent species in the whole universe, we would not make that list.

I agree 100% with Garry! :eek: We are just highly evolved primates.

It must also be the case that species much more advanced than ourselves will have evolved and become extinct on other planets out there.
11th March 2013, 19:32
Bagwan

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Originally Posted by ioan

It is not only finite, it is also expensive to dispose of in a harmless way (i.e. other then shipping it to Africa or South Asia.

At this point , I've got lead-acid , primarily due to cost .

The use of lithium could enable a lot of vehicular stuff , due to reduced weight from lead-acid , but maybe it isn't the best alternative .
It all has some cost .
11th March 2013, 20:00
Garry Walker

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Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow

I agree 100% with Garry! :eek: We are just highly evolved primates.

It must also be the case that species much more advanced than ourselves will have evolved and become extinct on other planets out there.

Absolutely. Just think, humans have existed for maybe 100 000 years (it really depends on how we classify humans, so you could say just as well 60 000 years or 150 000 years). The universe is over 13,5 billion years old. What is 100 000 years in that? Nothing, absolutely nothing. I am sure there were intelligent species out there billions of years ago, who have by now vanished to be forgotten by history. And so too will we vanish some day, most likely through the actions of our own.

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Originally Posted by steveaki13

If the life that is likely was close this might be the case, but as Garry said. Intellegence cant change the law of physics (that we know of) and to travel the distances covering the universe you would need to be much faster than light, which is in all likelyhood not possible.

Exactly. Laws of physics that we know of. That said, the universe is so grand, so impossibly huge that for even the most intelligent species out there, travelling from one edge of universe to our little planet, is just impossible.
11th March 2013, 20:10
SGWilko

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Originally Posted by donKey jote

Some (a few!) bacteria may be resistant to all known antibiotics, but how is this substantially different to the last 10000-100000 years, in which humanity didn't have any pharmaceutical antibiotics?

Oh yes I forgot... air travel.... arrrghhhh we are all going to dieeeeee :eek:

I guess that were it not for antibiotics, bacteria would not need to mutate to form a resistance to it.

Maybe the survival of the fittest theory will see single celled organisms rule the world.

As for air travel - all this has really achieved, apart from seeing lots of lovely foreign scenery, is the spread of disease from continent to continent, the introduction of species non native that take over etc.......
11th March 2013, 20:16
ioan

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Originally Posted by Zico

If there are so many other 'species' out there.. and that intelligent, I'm just really disappointed that they haven't bothered to pop by this wee planet to say hello. ;)

How often do you say hello to the ants that you see every now and then in the woods?

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