We need one in CZ. What is the difference in character btw Barum and Bohemia?
Maybe 3 rallies North Europe, 3 Mid Europe and 3 South Europe would be fare. 7 best counts.
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We need one in CZ. What is the difference in character btw Barum and Bohemia?
Maybe 3 rallies North Europe, 3 Mid Europe and 3 South Europe would be fare. 7 best counts.
Sorry but. Azores or Madeira must be in. Azores is probably the best rally gravel in IRC and there are so few gravel rallys... Madeira is one of the oldest rally in ERC, and also a very spectacular and well organized event... I don t say both, but ONE of them must be in
Acores are very far - that is big problem. Madeira as far as I know has had financial problems and could not afford to host IRC.
Both are very different. Bohemia is more technical, more twisty, generally better asphalt quality. For spectators Barum is better. More people, shorter road sections, more access points to the stages and not so extremely strict spectator regulation like in Bohemia. Advantage of Bohemia is Škoda as main sponsor and being spread along the motorway from Prague to Liberec while Zlín is just somewhere at the east without an airport etc. But in Zlín the atmosphere is better. You can see how the city lives the rally. I also find the stages more spectacular for watching.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
My wish list (and I don't care some rallies have budget problems, because it's also FIA orc IRC fault)
Janner
Mille Miglia
Barum
Polski
Ypres
San Marino
Madeira
Antibes
Rally Estonia or something in Scandinavia?
In reserve:
Croatia/Bulgaria
Ireland
Valais
My suggestion for a calendar.
North:
Arctic Rally, Finland - Snow
South Swedish rally, Sweden - Gravel
A Classic RAC rally, UK - Gravel
Central:
Janner Rally, Austria - Mixed Asphalt/Slush
Barum Rally, CZ - Asphalt
Polski rally, Poland, Gravel
South:
Asturias, Spain - Asphalt
San Remo, Italy - Asphalt
Cyprus - mixed Asphalt/Gravel
Criteria:
Good geo spread in Europe mainland.
All 3 surfaces in the calendar
Good rallies for both competitors and spectators.
No Belgium and no France?? Not a good spread in my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
Every calendar without Mille Miglia is a mistake ;-)
Here is the standing for the ERC calendar so far from forum votes. Some got their vote from “it should be in” but most them are from a full list.
Barum End of August / Beginning of September Jänner Beginning of January Rajd Polski End of September Mille Miglia End of April North England / Scotland Beginning of October San Remo Mid October Ypres End of June Madeira Beginning of August Acores End of February Arctic rally End of January Bosphorus Beginning of July Cyprus Beginning of November Estonia End of July San Marino Beginning of July Tour de Corse Beginning of May Valais End of October Canarias Mid March Hellendoorn End of September Ireland Beginning of April Yalta Mid September Antibes End of October South Sweden End of May Asturias Mid September Rally Bulgaria Beginning of June Silven, Bulgaria End of September Targa Florio Mid June Sibiu, Romania End of July Croatia End of May
As seen the top 3 rallies are legendary rallies in Europe and should be in the calendar. They’re also so different rallies (=3). Fast bumpy tarmac, snow tarmac and fast gravel. Ypres is on my list also (=4). A rally in north England and / or south Scotland would be nice witch stages from RAC (=5). I can’t decide which one should be on calendar, San Remo or Mille Miglia (=6). IMO Estonia deserves a rally in ERC (=7). I think Arctic is a little to far away from central Europe but imo there could be another winter rally in Norway (=8). Should there be few rotating events with a calendar of 10-12 rallies and witch gravel rallies should be added?
Rallies from this year ERC or IRC calendar with no votes are the Bulgarian rallies, Targa Florio, Sibiu and Croatia.
Lets say if only one rally per country would be allowed there would be a choice between Mille Miglia and San Remo or they could be run every second year.
Which forum is that?