Sebastien Loeb vs.....

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Originally Posted by TyPat107

What exactly make loeb so much better than the other drivers? Is it completely raw talent? Is it fitness practice and preparation? Does he perform lengthy analysis of each event after?

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It's everything.
What I have detected is that he has "pedal to metal" more than anyone else in most of the 5th and 6th gear corners. Another thing is that he goes "off-balance" only when needed and as much as needed. This is an extreme feature that demands great courage and ability, and only the great Rohrl has demonstrated it in such degree in the past. Because of this, he can remain more than anyone else "on the throttle" with minimum loss of traction.
The guy is the best of all times. Who would beat Colin and Carlos with the same car if he wasn't?

welcome scn ;)

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Originally Posted by scn

It's everything.
What I have detected is that he has "pedal to metal" more than anyone else in most of the 5th and 6th gear corners. Another thing is that he goes "off-balance" only when needed and as much as needed. This is an extreme feature that demands great courage and ability, and only the great Rohrl has demonstrated it in such degree in the past. Because of this, he can remain more than anyone else "on the throttle" with minimum loss of traction.
The guy is the best of all times. Who would beat Colin and Carlos with the same car if he wasn't?

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Interesting. Thanks. You last line is the only statement I have an issue with. McRae and the citroen never really meshed together, I believe I have an interview with him in an old rally xs mag that says with all of the electronics of the time it didn't work with his driving style. I can see the argument that Loeb is also better because of his adaptability to the different cars, but I sure would like to have seen them compete in gthe new generation car.

He had a win yesterday & a 2nd place today in the MitJet series at Magny-Cours....and was catching the leader at about a second a lap.....If it has wheels and an engine - he is quick. It doesn't really matter what type of car it is; FWD, 4WD, RWD Rallycar, GT, LMP, etc

He just promotes his team...

Those series are for rich gentlemen having fun...nothing serious.

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Originally Posted by TyPat107

Interesting. Thanks. You last line is the only statement I have an issue with. McRae and the citroen never really meshed together, I believe I have an interview with him in an old rally xs mag that says with all of the electronics of the time it didn't work with his driving style. I can see the argument that Loeb is also better because of his adaptability to the different cars, but I sure would like to have seen them compete in gthe new generation car.

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The question of the electronis is very important. The come of electronic diffs put a lot of good drivers one step behind because all of his learning curve was without electronics, and at the 30's something they were not able to learn again everything about driving. In 2003 i made an interview to Juha Kankkunen and Didier Auriol and they recognized that the electronis made things more difficult to the old school drivers and more esiear to the young ones that were learning the WRC cars. Kankkunen even said that electronics was more engeneer and less driving.

you can hardly say that Mcare was an old school driver like Auriol and Kankkunen...

When you start blaming the equipment for your failure means that your time is over and your extinction is a bless for the new species to evolve... that is how humanity works... old timers become maggot food and the new stronger breed rules as it should... in life, in business, is society...

Better thing for everyone is to step aside and watch the action from the sidelines than cry and hate on people just because they are better than you...

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Originally Posted by JAM

The question of the electronis is very important. The come of electronic diffs put a lot of good drivers one step behind because all of his learning curve was without electronics, and at the 30's something they were not able to learn again everything about driving. In 2003 i made an interview to Juha Kankkunen and Didier Auriol and they recognized that the electronis made things more difficult to the old school drivers and more esiear to the young ones that were learning the WRC cars. Kankkunen even said that electronics was more engeneer and less driving.

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This is psychological issue. It is not that old school drivers can't adapt to the new technologies, they don't feel the need to. All their career they have driven one way, this is all they know, so I guess when they feel old and little tired, it is not that urgent to adapt, besides not fighting for championship anymore. And after all we know how much easier for younger is to learn new things, than for older ones.

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Originally Posted by N.O.T

old timers become maggot food and the new stronger breed rules as it should...

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What, there's a N.O.T v2.0 coming to replace the current one?

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Originally Posted by Franky

What, there's a N.O.T v2.0 coming to replace the current one?

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hopefully, but i am still young and handsome so you must wait 30 years in order for me to get closer to fertiliser age....