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Yes, I have never stated otherwise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eki
Basic flaw by many people. Economics is not a zero sum game. McDonalds is clearly the winner in the fast food market. But that does not mean that Wendy's, Burger King, Jack in the Box, others aren't making money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eki
A better question might be 'what barrier is stopping you'? I'm sure you can think of some.Quote:
Originally Posted by chuck34
But how many mom&pop burger joints went bust and aren't making money because of them. People can't eat more fast food than they can stuff into their stomach and the population and the obesity problem aren't growing fast enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by chuck34
Actually that is exactly my question, substitution the adverb you for them doesn't change it one bit. But I'll play along just for fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
What barrier is stopping me in this theoretical true free market system? My own ambition, I would rather spend time with my family, and play video games than spend the time and energy needed to make a start up work. Short answer me.
What barrier is stopping me in the real world of the current US system? Again my own ambition is the main concern. But then you add in government rules, regulations, and certification processes, and those only add to drive down one's desire to devote the time and resources needed to make a start up successful.
You added the Springsteen bit after I replied. What a f'ing joke that man is. How much money has he made off of people charging them $100 to see him in concert whining about how hard it is to find a job, comin' out on the losin' end, and so on. Hypocrite. People like him and Michael Moore just make me sick. Making huge sums money in a capitalistic system by complaining about how horrible the capitalistic system is, how stupid is that!Quote:
Originally Posted by Eki
Oh no, a business might have failed. Boo hoo. I'm sorry to be so "heartless", but if those mom & pop shops were so great why couldn't they have beaten those giants? McDonalds was once a mom & pop outfit. The evil Wall-Mart was once a mom & pop shop. How did they ever compete against Macy's and Gimbals? How could a small computer company started out of some hippie's garage with a stupid fruit name ever compete against the might of IBM?Quote:
Originally Posted by Eki
That proves my point that there are just few winners and thousands of losers.Quote:
Originally Posted by chuck34
And how many low-paid employees they have? I read that the CEO of a Finnish supermarket chain makes 102 times more than his employees in average. I guess it's even worse in the US.
In a capitalistic system it's very smart. You sell people what they want to buy. If somebody is stupid, it's them who pay for their stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by chuck34
And not at any moment do you think that the sheer extent to which the corporate giants are entrenched, the sheer financial power at their disposal and their utter ruthlessness may be no barrier?Quote:
Originally Posted by chuck34
Oh, that old chestnut — 'you can't be a rich socialist'. Why is that attitude apparently not allowed, whereas you would presumably not have any objection to a poor capitalist?Quote:
Originally Posted by chuck34