Sebastien Ogier

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Originally Posted by Barreis

When you go to work, there's boss. When he says something, you have to listen. So if citroen boss said to Ogier to pull over for 10 minutes, that's it. Otherwise you can be fired and find your place somewhere else. Quesnell thought Loeb would retire and that's why he wanted Ogier to be in the team. Next year it will be different with startegies. Every rally Ogier starts behind Loeb and day by day it's same. Few years ago Hirvonen won 3 or 4 rallies in one season and where's now?! Second.

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Well this is no ordinary "employe". At the moment very few drivers can replace Ogier if any regarding speed, so Citroen might be putting themselves in a very dangerous situation.

Sordo was an ideal second driver. No big deal, Loeb wins drivers crown and citroen manufacturers. With Ogier they have another driver who can win when somebody else cleans the road infront of him for two or three days.

Ogier has won rallies from the front as well...

NOT, I tend to agree with you. Ogier has a talent close to, if not equal to, Loeb's and a move away from Citroen wouldn't benefit either party and is unlikely.
Nevertheless, many will believe that there is no smoke without fire. The goal posts have surely shifted significantly over the past few weeks and not in Ogier's favour. Of course there will not be comment from Ogier whilst he remains in contention for the 2011 title.

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Originally Posted by sollitt

Of course there will not be comment from Ogier whilst he remains in contention for the 2011 title.

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If both finish in rallies then Loeb takes the championship, thats what the team orders suggest in Australia in my opinion.

There is no way for Ogier to win against Loeb this year with Hirvonen 3rd...if Hirvonen retires then they might allow him to win.

Just remember what Guy Frequelin said about "if" ..... something unflattering about his grandmother.

David Evans take on the subject, Why Ogier's Citroen future is in doubt - AUTOSPORT PLUS
subscription part of autosport.com but here is the cruicial part


The talk down under was of a straight swap between Hirvonen and Ogier.

Could Hirvonen swap seats with Ogier next year?
Given Ogier's reluctance to shed any light on such a deal, I sought the opinion of the Finn. He promised this was the first he'd heard of it. And he looked entirely genuine. Entirely genuine right up until the point where he did one of those grins

Lol..

desperate little brittish reporters....how sad...

sorry guys the pain will continue until 2013...get ready.

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Originally Posted by MJW

David Evans take on the subject, Why Ogier's Citroen future is in doubt - AUTOSPORT PLUS
subscription part of autosport.com but here is the cruicial part


The talk down under was of a straight swap between Hirvonen and Ogier.

Could Hirvonen swap seats with Ogier next year?
Given Ogier's reluctance to shed any light on such a deal, I sought the opinion of the Finn. He promised this was the first he'd heard of it. And he looked entirely genuine. Entirely genuine right up until the point where he did one of those grins

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First of all let us see if Ford will be in the WRC next year...

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There are a couple of stumbling blocks to a possible deal. The first is that Ford has yet to commit beyond this season (although this is increasingly seen as a matter of when rather than if);