Ralf's gone crazy!! Or has he..?

The only thing that I'm worried about Ralf is that he hopefully wouldn't run into the back of his team-mate's car like last year in Spain. :p :

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Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1

True to a degree. The team have consistently failed to deliver, but neither Ralf (nor Jarno) appear capable of pushing & motivating the team to improve. They appear comfortatble where they are, and where they are (and probably will stay at this rate) is midfield.

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Its not about being comfortable being in the midfield, the problem is that the technical personal and especially the management are incompetent. No matter what the drivers do, they cant sort that out. its not about motivation or not being pushed enough, its about lack of talent, especially in the management side.

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Disagreeing with the criticism does not mean the criticism is hatred. You clearly have a higher regard for Ralf's abilities than many others. Fair enough.

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I dont like the way Ralf gets bashed so often - jpm fans make up ludicrous stories about JPM beating him, other bashers claim he only got to f1 because of the name and that he is only in it for the money and that he is slow - If all that is so, then why is he beating Trulli, why has he beaten most of his teammates? Ralf gets bashed incredibly much and most of it is totally undeserved.

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I suggested Panis simply because he was available and would have provided what Toyota needed at the time. You say that "any other driver in that car wouldnt have produced better results" but that's unprovable. Even if true it raises questions about the amount spent by the management on drivers. Throwing money in the wrong direction achieves little, as Toyota have shown in the last two years.

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What exactly could Panis have provided that Ralf cant/couldnt? Money isnt the problem for Toyota. With Ralf, they got a technically better driver, who is also by far more talented.

About that Panis vs Ralf comparison.

The goal of F1 is not to save as much money as possible, but to take the maximum from all the resources. Of course Ralf costs more than Panis, but as Ralf is better than Panis and Toyota can afford Ralf, then no problem. I'd imagine that any of the backmarker teams would hire an expensive top driver if they only had money...

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Originally Posted by Osella

I'm not sure there's anyone at Toyota who's not an overpaid has-been ;)

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Ouch. :D

But then again, it is kinda true......

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Originally Posted by jens

The goal of F1 is not to save as much money as possible, but to take the maximum from all the resources. Of course Ralf costs more than Panis, but as Ralf is better than Panis and Toyota can afford Ralf, then no problem...

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Toyota don't need expensive drivers, they just need good ones.

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Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1

Toyota don't need expensive drivers, they just need good ones.

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Wrong ! Toyota needs a good car, nothing is wrong with the drivers :p :

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Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1

Toyota don't need expensive drivers, they just need good ones.

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It seems that the good ones are expensive, or do you think that KR and FA come for less than RS and JT? :p :

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Originally Posted by ioan

It seems that the good ones are expensive, or do you think that KR and FA come for less than RS and JT? :p :

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But which ones of those are worth their salary?

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Originally Posted by Ian McC

But which ones of those are worth their salary?

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All of them, I think that they all earn what the teams believe they are worth of.

jarno and ralf both done a good job on sunday same with kimi and fernando so all of have earnt this months pay check in my eyes ;)