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interesting - what determines too old???
Schm was still up there as was JV and JPM.
I think the problem with f1 is not enough seats vs too old of drivers.
The kids should be given the opportunity to knock them off. Now with
the exception of Blockhead (DC) it is just kid against moderates (no WDC's )
That is the problem, isn't it? Even when looking at an obvious talent like Hamilton, Ron Dennis was hunting for an old hag to fill the seat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Schnell
With the lower level of physical danger and the money, drivers have tended to hang on well past when there was any reason. Jackie Stewart bowed out after 9 years in F1 because he didn't want to die in a race car. Drivers like JV have lacked that cold, hard element influencing their decisions. JV last actually accomplished something in 1997, and spent longer trudging in mediocrity than Stewart's whole career. Likewise, drivers like Coulthard, Trulli and Ralf Schumacher seem to be hanging on for the pension checks, as any realistic shot at being champion has passed.
ClarkFan
P.S. I miss Jim Clark, too....... :(
my understanding is that Fangio raced into his 50's. I feel the determining factor is not when you become cautious but when your balls recede.
All three will be missed, but MS the least. He was boring. JV and JPM had fire and were entertaining on and off the track. MS was right down boring.....
On to the new and upcoming drivers
I did hear plenty of things about MS from the haters, but boring is the lamest one you came up with!Quote:
Originally Posted by 93VTEC
Less than a week to go and I decided to put another comment here. As I said I don't miss anyone (even if Trulli retires one day for good, I wouldn't take it dramatically) - time goes by and everything has to change - it's pleasure to see new guys trying to prove themselves. But I also think much of experienced drivers, who haven't given up and are still trying...
M. Schumacher - There has been so much discussion about him that I even don't bother myself to write and discuss about him. :p : He already looks like 'history'. I remember 1999, when he was injured - then I really felt that something important was missing from Grand Prix racing, but I don't feel that at the moment. I don't like making driver comparisons from different eras, so I say just that he is among the greatest of all times. I think it's time to stop quarrels about him whether he was cheater or not or whatever. Senna is gone and we all (or most of us) admire him for what he has given for the sport. In Michael's case let's also shake hands and make peace - you like him or not, but in some way he has been memorable to all of you.
Villeneuve - Although I don't like his personality, I usually supported him. Maybe there was/is something to do with the fact that he is a Canadian - nation, who has sent so few participators to F1. I'm afraid that after Jacques we might not see another Canadian for some ten years in F1. When I heard in 1997 that he had won the title ahead of Michael, I didn't make a big problem of that - "Well, happens," was a reaction. After that it was sad to see a champion and a good driver struggling that much. I was especially sad in 1999, when he was retiring endlessly and often from point positions. I have probably never cheered so much for him than in 1999. For me BAR/Honda team is/was also an interesting phenomenon that I usually didn't support the team (especially when Jordan had also the same engines - in that battle I was clearly cheering for the yellows :p : ), but I have supported their drivers except "bulldozer" Zonta.
Montoya - Another guy with 'doubtful' personality, but I have to admit that I liked him more in Williams than in McLaren. He suited better in Williams, he simply looked better there. I remember my thought from 2002: "He as a driver seems to be worth a driver's title, but alas he would start talking too much after that..." Or something like that. But in McLaren it seems that he got a bit frustrated by the fact that he couldn't fight with Kimi in the points rankings, which led into making driver errors.
Here's another one you might not have heard: he was fat! :devil:Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
(He just hid it very well.)
:p :
Depends on the point of view! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by studiose
i loved all three of them, and especially JV he was my first "favourite" driver, i didn't like JPM in the beginning, but he wore me down and i have missed him since the day he left Williams, and schuey, well of course i will miss him, i loved everything about him! Thanks to all three for the great memories :)
No need to post a link, I know where it is and I already posted there before. My point is that we had threads about AS and MH in here before when they were no more in F1, but this year we get the mod's message that the last 3 who departed are to be discussed just in the History forum and that we should look forward to the extraordinary new additions we get this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
Why is that? Are you people scared you can't handle a thread about them anymore, so we relegate them to the part of the forum where there is little chance that people will ever read the threads? At least this was the impression I got after the famous thread started.