The Gushing Oil Leak Disaster

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Originally Posted by Bob Riebe

What material is going rise five thousand some feet to the surface, and remain there?

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According to one of the panel members on Bloomberg the other day (a Physics PhD), the same oil particles that are rising to the surface now would rise to the surface then too... only they'd be radioactive. And that has apparently been one of the major concerns.

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This is a suit-case size bomb, not a fusion weapon.

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It's been a long time since I took physics (and that was only in high school), but as I was taught, the detonation of any nuclear weapon is accompanied by a blast of neutron radiation. Whether the reaction is by fusion or by fission does not change that fact.

As I've just read, this option has indeed been taken off the table. With BP's now (limited) success in using the cap, risking an undersea nuclear explosion has been decided against.

Something else that was mentioned by the panel on Bloomberg was that while the main source might be sealed (or "glassified" as the one gentleman put it), there is no guarantee that additional fissures wouldn't be opened up by the explosion. So instead of one source, you might end up with 50, or whatever. So apart from the radiation risk, we just don't know how well (if at all) this glassification affect would hold, or if it would collapse/implode because of the pressures at that depth.

What I find most troubling about this is that people (and not just here) are just making wild ass guesses about what to do. There obviously was no contingency plan in place, whether by the government regulators or by the oil companies. So now people are willing to throw noodles at the wall to see what sticks.

I think this nuclear suggestion, along with all other somewhat viable options should have been explored... and from what I've read thus far, they were. But if anyone knew THE answer, we wouldn't still be discussing this. As a matter of fact, if a proper Failure Modes Effects Analysis had been performed by BP (and followed), this wouldn't have gotten as bad as it has to begin with.

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Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior

According to one of the panel members on Bloomberg the other day (a Physics PhD), the same oil particles that are rising to the surface now would rise to the surface then too... only they'd be radioactive. And that has apparently been one of the major concerns.




It's been a long time since I took physics (and that was only in high school), but as I was taught, the detonation of any nuclear weapon is accompanied by a blast of neutron radiation. Whether the reaction is by fusion or by fission does not change that fact.

As I've just read, this option has indeed been taken off the table. With BP's now (limited) success in using the cap, risking an undersea nuclear explosion has been decided against.

Something else that was mentioned by the panel on Bloomberg was that while the main source might be sealed (or "glassified" as the one gentleman put it), there is no guarantee that additional fissures wouldn't be opened up by the explosion. So instead of one source, you might end up with 50, or whatever. So apart from the radiation risk, we just don't know how well (if at all) this glassification affect would hold, or if it would collapse/implode because of the pressures at that depth.

What I find most troubling about this is that people (and not just here) are just making wild ass guesses about what to do. There obviously was no contingency plan in place, whether by the government regulators or by the oil companies. So now people are willing to throw noodles at the wall to see what sticks.

I think this nuclear suggestion, along with all other somewhat viable options should have been explored... and from what I've read thus far, they were. But if anyone knew THE answer, we wouldn't still be discussing this. As a matter of fact, if a proper Failure Modes Effects Analysis had been performed by BP (and followed), this wouldn't have gotten as bad as it has to begin with.

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Pussy.

Let's just nuke everything we have a problem with. Got a dodgy lock on your car door? NUKE IT!

Child not behaving itself? NUKE IT!

People in another country are Muslims? NUKE EM!!!!

That's twice in as many weeks I've agreed with Markabilly.... weird.

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Originally Posted by Daniel

You really are one of those "How hard could it be?" people aren't you :rotflmao:

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The best part is when someone says we should try it because the Russians said we should. I mean, they're our "friends", so it's not like we'd have to worry about them ever steering us wrong, huh?

That kind of reminds me of an old joke. This guy is walking through a park. He happens upon this guy reading a book and he wants to ask the guy what book he's reading. But there's this big, vicious looking dog sitting near the guy. So before he gets too close, he asks the guy, "does your dog bite?" The guy says, "no" and keeps reading. So the first guy starts walking toward him, when all of a sudden the dog launches an attack like the world has never seen. Bit him up, down and sideways. Arms, legs, face, butt... all over. Finally the dog gets tired and walks away. The bitten, bloody guy looks up at the other guy (who is still reading his book) and says, "I thought you said your dog didn't bite?!" The guy with the book says, "My dog doesn't bite. But that's not my dog." - and goes back to his book. :dozey:

The fact that the Russians wanted to see us try the Wile E. Coyote option would be my first clue to think twice about it. I still think it was worth exploring, but come on now... the Russians??? :rotflmao:
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Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior

The best part is when someone says we should try it because the Russians said we should. I mean, they're our "friends", so it's not like we'd have to worry about them ever steering us wrong, huh?

That kind of reminds me of an old joke. This guy is walking through a park. He happens upon this guy reading a book and he wants to ask the guy what book he's reading. But there's this big, vicious looking dog sitting near the guy. So before he gets too close, he asks the guy, "does your dog bite?" The guy says, "no" and keeps reading. So the first guy starts walking toward him, when all of a sudden the dog launches an attack like the world has never seen. Bit him up, down and sideways. Arms, legs, face, butt... all over. Finally the dog gets tired and walks away. The bitten, bloody guy looks up at the other guy (who is still reading his book) and says, "I thought you said your dog didn't bite?!" The guy with the book says, "My dog doesn't bite. But that's not my dog." - and goes back to his book. :dozey:

The fact that the Russians wanted to see us try the Wile E. Coyote option would be my first clue to think twice about it. I still think it was worth exploring, but come on now... the Russians??? :rotflmao:
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Amen brother :D

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Pussy.

Let's just nuke everything we have a problem with. Got a dodgy lock on your car door? NUKE IT!

Child not behaving itself? NUKE IT!

People in another country are Muslims? NUKE EM!!!!

That's twice in as many weeks I've agreed with Markabilly.... weird.

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I'm gonna see if I can get me one of them thar nukes at the next gunshow. Now that sounds like one true multi-purpose item to keep around the house.

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Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior

I'm gonna see if I can get me one of them thar nukes at the next gunshow. Now that sounds like one true multi-purpose item to keep around the house.

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Amen to that too!

Did you know that every day, Mexican gays sneak into the country and unplug brain-dead ladies? SERIOUSLY!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Amen to that too!

Did you know that every day, Mexican gays sneak into the country and unplug brain-dead ladies? SERIOUSLY!!!!!!

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I was wondering where all those ladies driving down the road, getting in my way, have been coming from..SERIOUSLY

looks like i am gonna need a whole bunch of them suitcases....

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Amen to that too!

Did you know that every day, Mexican gays sneak into the country and unplug brain-dead ladies? SERIOUSLY!!!!!!

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That's all uh happenin' cause we got that black devil as President, doncha know. I'm buyin' my ticket to Zimbabwe before he sends his Black Panther shock troops to put me in a concentration camp. Them dang census workers were just a gatherin' intelligence on where we all lived. They could be comin' for us tonight! But they'll never take me alive, I tell ya!!!

You did know that Obama is the second coming of the Anti Christ, didn't ya? True! I read that on one of those right wing(nut) websites a few months back. John F. Kennedy was the first. When Kennedy got his brains blown out, the Anti Christ jumped out of him into that dang communist, socialist, Nazi, fascist African that we got as our President! He didn't even win the election. Nah, he had all them illegal alien gay Mexicans stuffin' the ballot box! I bet he planned that oil spill to trap us in here. We could have escaped by row boat. Now we is trapped, man!!! :eek:

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Originally Posted by Daniel

You really are one of those "How hard could it be?" people aren't you :rotflmao:

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Unless you are simply magnifying your ignorance, give me actual proof it is not better than destroying the shore-line and how a tiny bomb a mile under water will cause great harm.

You must be one of those twits who believe nukes of any sort will create a world full of mutants.
Fine if you live in a nerd sci-fi world but not related to reality.

It seem Russian paranoia exists here along side Jew hatred.
Brilliant.

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Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior

The best part is when someone says we should try it because the Russians said we should. I mean, they're our "friends", so it's not like we'd have to worry about them ever steering us wrong, huh?

That kind of reminds me of an old joke. This guy is walking through a park. He happens upon this guy reading a book and he wants to ask the guy what book he's reading. But there's this big, vicious looking dog sitting near the guy. So before he gets too close, he asks the guy, "does your dog bite?" The guy says, "no" and keeps reading. So the first guy starts walking toward him, when all of a sudden the dog launches an attack like the world has never seen. Bit him up, down and sideways. Arms, legs, face, butt... all over. Finally the dog gets tired and walks away. The bitten, bloody guy looks up at the other guy (who is still reading his book) and says, "I thought you said your dog didn't bite?!" The guy with the book says, "My dog doesn't bite. But that's not my dog." - and goes back to his book. :dozey:

The fact that the Russians wanted to see us try the Wile E. Coyote option would be my first clue to think twice about it. I still think it was worth exploring, but come on now... the Russians??? :rotflmao:

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Your analogy and rhetoric, has taken you down to the level of Eki obtuse foolishness.
I know you are better than that.