Poll on who was at fault

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Originally Posted by Sonic

My interest is now moving to the in team tension that will no doubt have doubled within the team over the last 3 races.

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I think that tension was certainly a factor in the incident. We've seen a change in the happy "Little Britain" loving Vettel in recent times into a rather grumpy driver who seems to go into sulk mode when he's not leading and winning races.

Mark Webber's form this season (with the exception of Australia) has been superb and he's had the measure of the team's favourite son and, while I wouldn't expect Vettel to enjoy being beaten, his response has lacked maturity IMHO, possibly because of the cosseting he receives from Red Bull.

In Turkey we saw Webber leading from pole and Vettel's move could be seen as a result of frustration at seeing that happen yet again.

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Originally Posted by Dave Brockman

78% say Vettel's fault, according to the poll here.

Anybody care to admit that James Allen's poll (80%) and Jon Noble's (79%) may not have been so skewed after all?

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All those rascists Brits I would assume :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Dave Brockman

78% say Vettel's fault, according to the poll here.

Anybody care to admit that James Allen's poll (80%) and Jon Noble's (79%) may not have been so skewed after all?

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Yep, but without the poll, who would've known? ;)


I am very interested to see how this Red Bull dilemma unfolds.

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Originally Posted by Dave Brockman

78% say Vettel's fault, according to the poll here.

Anybody care to admit that James Allen's poll (80%) and Jon Noble's (79%) may not have been so skewed after all?

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The term, "the majority of people are idiots" comes to mind.

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Originally Posted by 555-04Q2

The term, "the majority of people are idiots" comes to mind.

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Lewis Hamilton, Martin Brundle, David Coulthard, Anthony Davidson, Alex Wurz and Nico Rosberg all called it Vettel's fault.

If you'd like to tell me which F1 drivers past or present (apart from Helmut Marko) see it differently then I would like to know.

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Originally Posted by Malllen

Lewis Hamilton, Martin Brundle, David Coulthard, Anthony Davidson, Alex Wurz and Nico Rosberg all called it Vettel's fault.

If you'd like to tell me which F1 drivers past or present (apart from Helmut Marko) see it differently then I would like to know.

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But, but, but, what about Eddie? Suddenly he's gone from a bit of a fool to the font of all knowledge :D

It certainly shows the difference in the drivers work ethics;

When Mark was being beaten (for the first time in his career) he held his hands up and said on several occasions "hey, this guy is just quicker." But he's gone away over the winter and come back stronger and, aside from Aus, has seemed confident and assured.

Now Vettel is being beaten (for the first time in his career too) he's sulking, blaming mysterious chassis faults and getting reckless.

I know which of the two I would want in my team leading the charge for the WDC.

I guess this sums up why I dislike the RBR team; they are a marketing exercise on wheels, less interested in racing and too interested in having the right "face" win the title.

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Originally Posted by Sonic

It certainly shows the difference in the drivers work ethics;

When Mark was being beaten (for the first time in his career) he held his hands up and said on several occasions "hey, this guy is just quicker." But he's gone away over the winter and come back stronger and, aside from Aus, has seemed confident and assured.

Now Vettel is being beaten (for the first time in his career too) he's sulking, blaming mysterious chassis faults and getting reckless.

I know which of the two I would want in my team leading the charge for the WDC.

I guess this sums up why I dislike the RBR team; they are a marketing exercise on wheels, less interested in racing and too interested in having the right "face" win the title.

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Up till now, I have had no problem with Red Bull. They have brought a lot of money into the sport which if they hadn't, would have given F1 a big headache in the last few years.

I also like their drivers. Mark is a no nonsense Aussie who refreshingly holds his hands up when he "runs out of talent" as he puts it and vettel promises to be a real star.

Now though, I'm not so sure. Webber is either proving himself a much better peddler than I gave him credit for or vettel is a bit over hyped. His reaction to the pressure Mark is putting him under is rather poor.

As for RBR, if Sebs stock has diminished slightly, theirs has plummeted after this weekend in my eyes.

My only hope is that Red Bull are not stupid, that they are evaluating the reaction of the fans and will let their drivers to race honestly.

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Originally Posted by Sonic

As is your right. Personally I think its time to step back from this one; We've all stated our positions and clearly will not be swayed one way or the other.

My interest is now moving to the in team tension that will no doubt have doubled within the team over the last 3 races.

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Thanks for respecting my rights :) Unlike some others :up: