Donkey of the race

And still some tracks like Melbourne and Spa produce very nice races while other do so more rarely.

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Originally Posted by ioan

Spot on. Still people believe it is down to the tracks.

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Well that can be a cause definitely, but in this case, just because cars are close together doesn't mean there should be overtaking all the time. This reminds me a bit of Bernoldi and Coulthard at Monaco in 2001 I think - The Arrows driver kept Coulthard behind him for 40-odd laps, and yet very few people gave him compliments about his driving, they complained at Coulthard for not getting by. it is not always a one-way street.

Alonso and Massa were always fairly close to Kubica, but not ONCE did I see Felipe lining up a pass, or attempt one even.

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Originally Posted by ioan

And only MS managed to make passes stick when the track was dry, so he's on the right path IMO.

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Well, not only him, but you're right, in essence it wasn't extremely difficult to pass on the dry track.

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Originally Posted by ioan

And only MS managed to make passes stick when the track was dry, so he's on the right path IMO.

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With Jaime it was very nice move, Pedro has destroyed his tyres. But still I hope for more in Brazil.

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Originally Posted by Hawkmoon

I think people are being a little harsh on Webber for the incident with Hamilton. The McLaren was practically stopped when they collided. It was still Webber's fault but I've seen a lot worse.

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not really check the replays, he did not run into the back of hamilton,. he tried to make a pass where there was no room and cut inside of hamilton and took both of them out

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Originally Posted by F1boat

And still some tracks like Melbourne and Spa produce very nice races while other do so more rarely.

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That's just a subjective impression. All tracks produced both interesting and boring races.

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Originally Posted by ioan

That's just a subjective impression. All tracks produced both interesting and boring races.

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Matter of opinion, to me Brazil, Oz and Belgium usually produce better races.

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Originally Posted by Saint Devote

I would also add that Hamilton did not drive well at all either. Maybe he is being pysched out by Jense?! :eek:

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once again proving that you did not watch the race :down:

Hamilton drove outstanding today and if not called in for a 2nd pit stop would probably be 2nd coming from 11th on the girds. He passed your man Button at the start , made up 5 places and was on a tear all race long. I am not sure what you think "driving well" means, because if a driver can take another pitstop and still close down a 24 second gap to alonso with a real chance of passing them then you certainly don't understand the concept of driving an F1 car.

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Originally Posted by woody2goody

Alonso and Massa were always fairly close to Kubica, but not ONCE did I see Felipe lining up a pass, or attempt one even.

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Did you read what I posted? It is almost impossible to pass in normal conditions without the guy in front making a mistake.

Once you get within 1 second of the car in front you lose so much downforce that you can not go through the turns as fast as the car you are trying to overtake, which means that you have no chances down the straights. Lewis with the super duper Mercedes engine and their F-duct system couldn't pass Kubica on the straights because he wasn't close enough through the corner preceding the straight.

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Originally Posted by Saint Devote

Webber did make errors today and is one of the "donkeys", but at racing speed Hamilton slowed suddenly because of trying overtake Alonso - it was not Webber's fault in that accident.

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lol, high comedy

please go watch that race again and understand what happened before making ill informed statements. Webber saw exactly what was going on and tried to capitalize by making a move he should not have. He took himslef and Hamilton out in the process.Even Webber acknowledged his mistake and issued an apology. But I guess the saint knows best. lol