California Budget

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Originally Posted by Eki

What happens if you don't have a job?

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You're on Medicaid.

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Originally Posted by Firstgear

Yes, it's similar here in Canada. Members have a free vote, but are sometimes instructed to vote with their party. There can be consequences (public spankings, Max?) for going against your party.

Certain votes are "confidence" votes (such as passing the budget) and if this doesn't get voted through, the government falls, and an election is called.

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The US does not have confidence votes as such. The "government" doesn't fall. The President is in office for 4 years no matter if he gets everything he wants or nothing. Same deal for Senators and Congressmen (6 and 2 years respectively). For votes such as the budget, they must get something passed, or all "non-essential" functions shut down. That happened in like '95 or so. That can be seen as either a good thing or a bad thing depending on which side of the issue you are on. And that affects your chances at being re-elected. It's a really complicated system.

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Originally Posted by ioan

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And how are they supposed to pass laws in the parliament?
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A minority government cannot pass legislation without the agreement from the other parties who hold seats in the house of commons. A minority government is constantly struggling to maintain confidence in the house of commons. In extreme cases, a "non-confidence" motion can be put forth, and if passed, requires the inervention of Governer General to resolve, usually by dissolving parliament and calling another election.

Oops, sorry, didn't see 1stgear's post above...

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Originally Posted by Eki

What happens if you don't have a job?

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Originally Posted by chuck

You're on Medicaid.

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Please quit spouting this bull$hit

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Originally Posted by Chuck

That is actually the way it works here in the States. We have medicare/medicaid that take care of those that don't have their own healthcare

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and also this B.S.

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Originally Posted by Chuck

And please remember that it is ILLEGEAL for hospitals to turn people away.

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You also receive an exuberant bill the emergency room services!!!

I guess you didn't read this part of the eligibility requirements,
or you don't want to face the truth. Let me sum this up for you

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Many groups of people are covered by Medicaid. Even within these groups, though, certain requirements must be met. These may include your age, whether you are pregnant, disabled, blind, or aged] your income and resources (like bank accounts, real property, or other items that can be sold for cash)[/b]

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You have to sell real property and be nearly broke in order to qualify

Regardless whether you think this is an equitable deal or not,
it is not the same as Euro basic health insurance, which is what you stated earlier

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Originally Posted by t'zo

You also receive an exuberant bill the emergency room services!!!

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Although ironically it may make someone fell exuberant, :p :

what I meant to say is exorbitant. :mark: :p :

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Originally Posted by Tazio

You have to sell real property and be nearly broke in order to qualify

Regardless whether you think this is an equitable deal or not,
it is not the same as Euro basic health insurance, which is what you stated earlier

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Why should the government tax everyone at a higher rate to pay for health care when some if not most people have the means to foot the bill themselves?

I don't mind helping pay for people with real problems, but I see no reason why I should foot the medical bill for someone who is not willing to sacrifice some of their own income or standards of living first.

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Originally Posted by airshifter

Why should the government tax everyone at a higher rate to pay for health care when some if not most people have the means to foot the bill themselves?

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I never said we should Shifty.
I was just pointing out the factual difference between Medicaid, and someones fantasy of it :p :

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Originally Posted by airshifter

Why should the government tax everyone at a higher rate to pay for health care when some if not most people have the means to foot the bill themselves?

I don't mind helping pay for people with real problems, but I see no reason why I should foot the medical bill for someone who is not willing to sacrifice some of their own income or standards of living first.

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They have sacrificed some of their own income in advance and after the medical bill by paying high income tax.

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Originally Posted by airshifter

I don't mind helping pay for people with real problems, but I see no reason why I should foot the medical bill for someone who is not willing to sacrifice some of their own income or standards of living first.

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What kind of logic is this?!
If everyone has to pay than everyone sacrifices some of their income, not only you! :rolleyes:

BTW maybe you should be in their shoes and than we'll see what line you will tow around here, if you will still afford an internet connection, not to mention having a computer.