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24th June 2009, 18:37
Drew

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Originally Posted by Fred Basset

I moved to a country where i could speak the language well.

The Euros that come to UK in a lot of cases can not speak the language or if they can, its very poor. All part of the reason i had to move away when i would walk up my high st and find that i was the odd one out listening to all the languages that were being spoken. To be able to enjoy the benefits of living in UK, you should be able to speak English well enough to be able to carry out a conversation.. whats wrong with my thinking that???

Its a sad day when someone considers on this forum that i'm the one with the problem when all i want is for people that come to the UK to enjoy the benefits of living there that i just think that they should be able to talk in English to an acceptable level

Fred, dónde vives el los estados unidos? Sabes que no hay ninguna lengua oficial, verdad?

Fred, where do you live in the USA? You know there's no official language right?

Most of the "euros" that come to the UK speak perfect english and I'm pretty sure they don't mind if you speak english even when they're speaking polish or whatever.

I live in Germany atm and my german is awful, truely terrible but the people are mostly nice about it, shame it can't happen in the uk...
24th June 2009, 18:39
Mark in Oshawa

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Originally Posted by Tazio

In today’s world they are overwhelmingly right wing
I'm glad we have found some common ground. Because if asked I would say they are nut-jobs first,
and probably couldn't even give you a discernable definition of a right winger or a left winger!
All I have to say is in this clusterfu<k of accusations and counter accusations about the clan is,
in the immortal words of Rambo, John, J
“They drew first blood sir! They drew first blood"
I hope this metaphor doesn't go over your head as well! ;)

Taz...they are NOT overwhelmingly right wing at all. First off, provide proof...REAL proof. Then define racists. Then look around the world and look at some of the atrocities socialist nations have perpetrated on their population based on race and/or religion. I guess the USSR with their pogroms vs the Jews wasn't racism? Last I looked, the Socialists of the USSR were radical leftists. How about socialist government of China persecuting the Uighers? Communists are socialists that are just a little more disdainful of democratic conventions, but they are on the spectrum of the left just like the KKK and radical Christians in America are seen as part of the right.

By stating your assertion that more racists are right wingers, you are naive, and in a very ironic way, proving my point that the left is blind to their wackjobs.

One only has to look again to Jermiah Wright, the Black Panthers, The Weather Underground and people like Jesse Jackson who calls New York "Hymietown" to prove that idiots on are on the left too. See, I know about the radical Christians and KKK, you choose to ignore your problems.
24th June 2009, 18:39
chuck34

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Originally Posted by Tazio

As badly as you want to accuse me of implying you are a racist, the reality is I didn't! That argument is null and void.
Chill-Pill Chuck :laugh:

At the very least you must see that saying I was "under the Lynching Tree" was in VERY poor taste and could be seen as implying I was for lynching.
24th June 2009, 18:40
Mark in Oshawa

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Originally Posted by Drew

Fred, dónde vives el los estados unidos? Sabes que no hay ninguna lengua oficial, verdad?

Fred, where do you live in the USA? You know there's no official language right?

Most of the "euros" that come to the UK speak perfect english and I'm pretty sure they don't mind if you speak english even when they're speaking polish or whatever.

I live in Germany atm and my german is awful, truely terrible but the people are mostly nice about it, shame it can't happen in the uk...

If Fred stayed in Britain, would have voted BNP? Just a thought.....
24th June 2009, 18:43
Drew

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Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa

If Fred stayed in Britain, would have voted BNP? Just a thought.....

For the record I wasn't suggesting that. But I always find it funny when British people complain about immigrants and the like coming in and ruining the country and then decide to solve this problem but immigrating. Especially to a country who's history, culture, cuisine and more are all based on immigrants and immigration. I'm just curious to hear what fred has to say about it all :)
24th June 2009, 19:14
Mark in Oshawa

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Originally Posted by Drew

For the record I wasn't suggesting that. But I always find it funny when British people complain about immigrants and the like coming in and ruining the country and then decide to solve this problem but immigrating. Especially to a country who's history, culture, cuisine and more are all based on immigrants and immigration. I'm just curious to hear what fred has to say about it all :)

The silence is kind of loud isn't it?

Heck...I would love to have some immigrants from the UK at this point. Much of Canadian culture was helped by the steady immigration from the "old" country, but now our Goverment has a form of racism in that if you are from a modern democracy, the bar is MUCH higher to emigrate to Canada than it would be from India, Pakistan, or South East Asia. I have no problem with people coming to Canada from these nations BUT why discriminate against Western Europe?
24th June 2009, 19:16
Tazio

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Originally Posted by chuck34

At the very least you must see that saying I was "under the Lynching Tree" was in VERY poor taste and could be seen as implying I was for lynching.

Chuck you have made it abundantly clear that you were offended by my metaphor. All I can say is you have never given me any reason to think, let alone post that you are a racist. I have no reason to think that Wade is a racist either. The allegory was not a veiled reference to your racial belief. It was meant to represent a dichotomy! That being a trendy Coffee-shop as a gathering place for Klan members, or any other extreme racists! I hope this will assuage any lingering doubts you have as to its intention. However, every single person on this forum including the moderators could interpret that line the same as you did, and it wouldn't change the spirit in which it was meant!
Peace My Man!
24th June 2009, 19:21
Malbec

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Originally Posted by Drew

For the record I wasn't suggesting that. But I always find it funny when British people complain about immigrants and the like coming in and ruining the country and then decide to solve this problem but immigrating. Especially to a country who's history, culture, cuisine and more are all based on immigrants and immigration. I'm just curious to hear what fred has to say about it all :)

I've always found it amusing that a paper like the Mail can have rants about immigration then on the next page you'll find a guide on how to buy a nice house in France, Spain or Italy and move there. How many Mail readers actually speak fluent French, Spanish or Italian and how many would see themselves as being immigrants? And what about the Brits who emigrate to America, Hong Kong or Dubai to seek a quick buck? Talk about hypocrisy.
24th June 2009, 19:29
chuck34

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Originally Posted by Tazio

Chuck you have made it abundantly clear that you were offended by my metaphor. All I can say is you have never given me any reason to think, let alone post that you are a racist. I have no reason to think that Wade is a racist either. The allegory was not a veiled reference to your racial belief. It was meant to represent a dichotomy! That being a trendy Coffee-shop as a gathering place for Klan members, or any other extreme racists! I hope this will assuage any lingering doubts you have as to its intention. However, every single person on this forum including the moderators could interpret that line the same as you did, and it wouldn't change the spirit in which it was meant!
Peace My Man!

I understand that you were trying to set up some sort of dichotomy, or imagry, or a joke, or whatever. The point is you could have done that without lumping Wade (I don't know anything about him really) and I into that "picture". Choose your words wisely especially when dealing with a subject like this. Words I need to live by as well.
24th June 2009, 19:31
Mark in Oshawa

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Originally Posted by Dylan H

I've always found it amusing that a paper like the Mail can have rants about immigration then on the next page you'll find a guide on how to buy a nice house in France, Spain or Italy and move there. How many Mail readers actually speak fluent French, Spanish or Italian and how many would see themselves as being immigrants? And what about the Brits who emigrate to America, Hong Kong or Dubai to seek a quick buck? Talk about hypocrisy.

Drew...that is the English...it is their world, and on some level, they allow the rest of us to live in it I guess..lol...

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