Time to readjust your tin foil hat, ytm. It's cramping a few brain cells.Quote:
Originally Posted by youtellme
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Time to readjust your tin foil hat, ytm. It's cramping a few brain cells.Quote:
Originally Posted by youtellme
i dont believe this for a second. what could mayfield have been taking? this doesnt make sense at all, mayfield and his wife are not dirty people. i dont believe he was doing drugs, no way. something has to be wrong here.
Geez, ytm. You're taking this whole mess very personally. Neither you nor I know what anyone, including the Mayfields, is doing in their own personal space. What's wrong is that Jeremy thought he could thumb his nose at the rules and get away with it. It happens all the time to people who are much smarter than Jeremy Mayfield.Quote:
Originally Posted by willracefan
If he thinks he's clean he should sue NASCAR. His attorney has advised him to shut up but hasn't yet filed a lawsuit. According to the news reports NASCAR is not backing off and has no plans to do so. The ball is in Jeremy's court. Period.
to the person who said all of jeremy's fans can pile into a schoolbus and leave, he may have that many no.1 fans but the majority of race fans do root for underdogs to win if their favorite driver isnt contending, like say if it was mayfield vs. kyle busch or montoya, they would want mayfield to win.
Most fans also dont want their favourite driver killed by some dude driving around doped up on crack either.Quote:
Originally Posted by willracefan
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Originally Posted by Haulin'AssAndTurnin Left
Unless you know for sure, and have evidence to share with the class, it's really not a good idea to make insinuations of illegal drug use.
the substance and the test results have not been revealed to the fans
people can speculate all they want but it comes down to who do you trust
nascar made a claim without offering proof to the fans
mayfield claims it is a mistake but offers no proof
as far as nascar is concerned it is case closed - mayfield is suspended
That was me, and there are plenty of underdogs in NASCAR and I cheer for a few of them. That said, Mayfield wasn't one of them. His big mouth talked its way out of 2 first class rides in his life for reasons most of us would have had the decency to shut up about (commenting about Ray Evernham's love life while moaning to reporters). My sympathy for him was pretty much gone, although I didn't hate the guy. Then he tested positive. Everyone wants to think he didn't do anything wrong with drugs. Everyone wishes he didn't test positive. I don't personally want to see him out of the sport, but I am not so naive to belief that this was just some bad dose of Clartin and something else.Quote:
Originally Posted by willracefan
What people have to realize is what he tested positive for is likely something that raised eyebrows at NASCAR. They didn't just phone up some lab and ask for a price to do testing. This program is being done by a lab that has set protocols, and monitors for substances of concern to not just NASCAR but likely any company wanting drug testing to make sure anyone in violation wouldn't be offering heavy machinery or whatever. I am tested as a trucker, and the protocols and safe guards taken with my tests are extensive. You can believe that the NASCAR drivers are taking tests with likely more elaborate measures to ensure no tampering and no false positives are given.
In short, Jeremy took something he shouldn't have. Prescription or illegal we don't know but you can bet it is something NASCAR doesn't want its drivers piloting stock cars while under the influence. PERIOD.
My bet is it isn't illicit, but likely a prescription drug he cant do without.....you guys can speculate on what THAT is.....
A friend of mine called me from Florida recently and told me he talked to a lawyer who says that Mayfield just may have NASCAR by the shorthairs if he decides to sue, due to the fact that NASCAR allegedly has never released a comprehensive list of banned substances, like just about every other sports league in the country. It might not be enough to just tell them what's banned, especially after the fact. If this is true, Mayfield, who at this point will never get another decent ride in Sprint Cup, may have nothing to lose and go after NASCAR, which if successful, might force NASCAR to open up its books which it will fight with vigor.
Now MY lawyer friend here in my neck of the woods says Mayfield does have a good case if the facts revealed to me by my Florida friend are accurate.
But...
NASCAR does have a discretionary clause called 12-4A which covers conduct "detrimental to stock car racing", which my lawyer friend suggests is a loophole that might help NASCAR fight the lawsuit. This rule is something that every driver who competes has to agree to. Only thing is, is this rule too broad and unspecific to allow NASCAR to arbitrarily enforce certain restrictions they don't have in written form anywhere? Does the fact that at least right now, NASCAR can come in and accuse someone of failing a drug test for a substance that is not on any provided comprehensive written list, made available to competitors and their medical practitioners, pass any reasonable legal test? Inquiring minds want to know.
NASCAR is forbidden to by Federal Law.Quote:
Originally Posted by oldhippie
Mayfield isn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by oldhippie