Kovy should've won the race?

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Originally Posted by ioan

:eek: What? Wait a moment, somethings wrong with the script!

Just kidding! ;)
Good to see that we agree sometimes, even if we often don't! :)

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LOL, you live (post) long enough and anything's possible.

Seriously, it was a good and valid point and you were right!

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Originally Posted by wedge

At least the Ferraris have a decent excuse, their cars doesn't work as well in the wet.

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So does St Kilda - they didn't play so good last night at all.

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Originally Posted by wedge

At least the Ferraris have a decent excuse, their cars doesn't work as well in the wet.

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It sure didn't look that bad during the 1st stint of Silverstone. Kimi was right on Hamilton's tail. It wasn't until a Ferrari strategy faux pa, putting the wrong tires on Kimi's car, that they couldn't keep pace anymore.

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Originally Posted by ioan

Yes he is, and on top of that he's the weakest driver they had for a very long period! :laugh:

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didn't know you were such a big fan of Montoya, ioan! ;)

On a more serious note, yes, I also distinctly remember that McLaren and specially Lewis were mad about Rosberg and Vettel before turning their attention to Heikki, who was clearly a third choice for them.

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Originally Posted by Valve Bounce

It seems some Poms can't accept defeat gracefully - they want to play the Shooda Kooda Wooda jive even when they lose.

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I'm no Pom, and I did watch live timing, and I tell you, Hamilton was mighty fast and would have had a good chance of winning the GP had it rained.

But obviously, it didn't, and this is all hypothetical. One can not just add 30 seconds to Hamilton's time to see where he would have ended. Vettel might have lifted up his game, for example.

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Originally Posted by jjanicke

It sure didn't look that bad during the 1st stint of Silverstone. Kimi was right on Hamilton's tail. It wasn't until a Ferrari strategy faux pa, putting the wrong tires on Kimi's car, that they couldn't keep pace anymore.

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Erm, it wasn't raining at the end of the 1st stint, which is when Kimi was catching Hamilton.

In other words, when the track conditions began to favour the Ferrari, finally allowing it to get some heat in the tyres, the Ferrari started to be the quickest thing on the circuit.

But when the rain came down at the start, Kimi was not "right on Hamilton's tail".

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Originally Posted by Valve Bounce

http://www.formula1.com/

Go to services, and select Live Timing on the sub menu.

http://www.formula1.com/services/live_timing/

You will then need to register.

This will give you the position of every car, the lap times, sector times and gaps between the cars for each lap for the entire race. It also gives you when any car does its best lap of the race to that lap, and fastest lap and sector times.

You can also select sub menus on the side of the grid for weather and lap charts.

It also tells you when cars are in the pits and and how much fuel the car has taken.

If you are watching the race on TV, then you will need a lap top and wi fi.

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I use live timings a lot but to back up your claim, you need to produce a link with lap by lap race positions with timings.

Link Please

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Originally Posted by Knock-on

I use live timings a lot but to back up your claim, you need to produce a link with lap by lap race positions with timings.

Link Please

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http://www.f1matrix.it/

Have fun!

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Originally Posted by jjanicke

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Lewis was on a one stop strategy that very well could have brought him the win. The reason he used up his 3rd set of tires was because they had to switch from a 1 stopper to a 2 stopper which made him push harder to make up lost ground.

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My point is Jjanicke, once Vettel had done his first stop, so Hamilton and Vettel BOTH had just 1 stop to make. Hamilton was 1.5s behind Vettel, both had 1 stop to make. Lewis's pitstops during the race were costing 30s.

Lewis finished 30s behind Vettel at the end of the race. And we all know Hamilton pushed like a mad-man over the second half of the race, so we can be sure that was his ultimate pace. So even if he didn't have to make that second stop, its absolutely no garantuee he'd have won. By timings alone, if we exclude his second stop, he'd have finished pretty much with Vettel. But was Vettel pushing it to the max? Fact he wasn't pressured heavily suggests he had more speed. Plus we also have to take into account Hamilton trying to overtake Vettel.

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Originally Posted by Speedworx

2nd was the best Heikki could expect. Had it been dry, Heikki woulda won. As it was, the T.Rosso was faster.

Anyone that slags off Heikki is an idiot!

a: he doesn't cheat (aka Lewis)

b: he doesn't drive diry (aka Lewis)

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When has Lewis cheated? When has he driven dirty? Whats your definition of dirty driving? Who do you support?