Will anyone in Indycar ever make it to F1 now???

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Originally Posted by garyshell

Oh my, where should I start???

1. A series that is shown in primetime practically every week versus one that you have to get up at 7 AM on the East coast or 4 AM on the west coast to see live or stay up until 2:30 AM on the east coast.

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They've tried to put f1 on broadcast T.V. The Ratings have just been abysmal and didn't warrant the fee. That included the USGP. With good reason too. The races have been terrible the last 15 years. Costs have skyrocketed to a point where only a couple teams can win and computers haven all but taken it out of the drivers hands. You could have the reincarnation of Jim Clark and be a back marker because your software isn't up to par.

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5. The xenophobic attitude of sports fans in the USA. (A fact I am very sad to have to discuss.)

Is that enough of a start?

Gary

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We're Xenophobic? Because we don't latch on to what's popular in europe like everyone else we're xenophobic? How about this, we just don't like what everyone else likes. Things like a bunch of stuck up jerks going around similar tracks (save Monoco) in vehicles that have more aides than a F-16 with the same one winning each time just doesn't appeal to me nor does a bunch of guys kicking a ball around a field with seemingly no strategy involved. Their sports have been given a much better chance over her than ours have been given over there.

Colin, Donohue's career began and ended long before CART.

Hey, Gary, guess we finally disagreed on one, but we had a good streak goin'. :)

The ticket prices for F1 at Indy were no different than the other two races. Ben's right on the TV.

In countries other than the U.S., sports fans' only major choices are soccer and motor racing and for them, F1 is el ultimo. There are many other choices for the sports entertainment fan and dollar in the U.S. than any other country. And I don't know what Xenophobic is, but if it means I have a phobia against someone named Xeno, just what the h3ll does he drive? :)

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Originally Posted by indycool

Colin, Donohue's career began and ended long before CART.

Hey, Gary, guess we finally disagreed on one, but we had a good streak goin'. :)

The ticket prices for F1 at Indy were no different than the other two races. Ben's right on the TV.

In countries other than the U.S., sports fans' only major choices are soccer and motor racing and for them, F1 is el ultimo. There are many other choices for the sports entertainment fan and dollar in the U.S. than any other country. And I don't know what Xenophobic is, but if it means I have a phobia against someone named Xeno, just what the h3ll does he drive? :)

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Fear of anything foreign.

Oh, THAT Warrior Princess.........not scared of her (pant, pant, pant).

If it's foreign, guess I should fear all Dallaras and American-based but Japanese-controlled Honda engines.....eating steaks at Bardi's in Toronto....the bullet train to LeMans.....some fun in Brazil.......naw, I guess I don't qualify as Xenophobic.......sorry.

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Originally Posted by indycool

Ken, I might take that bet for some of those guys -- Helio and Kanaan, for two of 'em, who are a little older than the rest and are well set racing here. Marco and Patrick are probably not ready yet (and may never be). Mutoh, too, just getting into the high-powered stuff. Briscoe and Wheldon, I'd reckon they would. Dixon, probably.

But I guess I still don't understand why F1 should be the absolute dream of everyone. It ain't for me, for one, and there are a lot of people in the U.S. who do not care.

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there's alot of reasons none will ever end up there......but I stand by my wager (of coarse we will never know).....if anyone of them were offered a seat tomorrow they would jump in an instant

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Originally Posted by BenRoethig

We're Xenophobic? Because we don't latch on to what's popular in europe like everyone else we're xenophobic? How about this, we just don't like what everyone else likes.

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Sorry, I should have been more specific. The xenophobia I was talking about was that towards the foreign drivers.

Gary

That's okay, Gary....let's keep talking about the Warrior Princess! :)

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Originally Posted by jimispeed

Will anyone in Indycar ever make it to F1 now???

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After thinking about this for a few days. I don't care. I'd prefer to think of IndyCar as the destination rather then a feeder series. But as long as there are International drivers in the ICS it will have some degree of a F1 "feeder/failure" series.

Which with NASCAR it's a little different because it seems to be an AOWR retirement senior series ..... :p

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Originally Posted by Albert D. Kallal

We respect the drivers in F1 because they are considered to be the best of the best, and I guarantee virtually any of them could move into any other racing venue with 4 wheels and learn to be competitive in a relatively short time. I simply can’t say the reverse is true for the IRL.

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Well, it couldn't be said of any other series either.

As an add-on, Michael Schumacher doesn't agree with you if his comments about driving DTM cars are to be believed.

According to Michael, he doesn't have the talent to win in DTM.

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Originally Posted by garyshell

Sorry, I should have been more specific. The xenophobia I was talking about was that towards the foreign drivers.

Gary

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Give it time, fans are just getting used to importing pro-basketball players.