Does he really have to go to Japan to sign the deal though
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Does he really have to go to Japan to sign the deal though
there is this voting going on at wrc.com in different categories, just look what photos they have chosen to put up in the photo of the year category http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/novem...8--12-12-.html
LMAO!
N.O.T will have an aneurysm. I think some of them are quite good. The autumn leaves Lavadinho one is nice actually. I like a mix of landscapes and car action shots myself. Voted for the Sophie Graillon one.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
i voted for the Graillon as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by kirungi okwogera
The others are just overphotoshopped or not rally photos.
Mr. ToyodaQuote:
Originally Posted by sete
No, but Mr Toyoda wants to meet his future driversQuote:
Originally Posted by BigWorm
All 3 possible flying via Japan to Finland (and then towards "home")Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Hint:
Start with "Jari-matti latva"
Finish with "a"
Yeah I know it's a difficult one.
No really new information today in Motorsport News to move the VW/driver story on. At best everyone is just guessing and it's clear there's not really anything the drivers can say until after Australia. It does seem that it perhaps wasn't written crystal clear in the contract of Ogier etc what they do in a situation like this. So it seems that has taken some time to work through.
Both Veiby (Mikkelsen) and Jouhki (Latvala) saying they are confident something will be sorted - are speaking to multiple teams etc. Still says Citroen are looking to see what they can do to snare Ogier, and also looking to Abu Dhabi for potential funding.
AS report VW might just make available the 2016 Polo R WRC to privateers as there is no chance it'll be able to compete against 2017 cars...
I say get Ogier in the 2016 car and he would! Hah
Time to Baumschlager and Nasser bought one
That part about renting Polo '16 for privateers is quite interesting. Curious who would go for it. Thought, they will shut the door for privateers.
Besides Nasser maybe Mikkelsen if there is no vacancy for him? Or some youngsters from WRC2
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This is being discussed in the 'VAG pull-out' thread...Quote:
Originally Posted by GigiGalliNo1
DMACK Fiestas with norwegian team it seems
no Elfyn then?
?Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
Skickat från min iPhone med Tapatalk
Adapta Motorsport most probably?Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
VW drivers latest (Autosport):
http://www.autosport.com/news/report...-on-2017-deals
so if Suninen and Hanninen are the two Toyota drivers, there is just place for another one driver only.
Suninen was planned as driver no.3, but we will see, now after VW leaving everything has changed...Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
So, lets make a list how things could be for 2017.Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
Hyundai stays the same:
Neuville
Paddon
Sordo
Abring
Citroen:
Meeke
Lefevre
Breen
M-sport:
Tanak
Ogier
Camilli
Toyota:
Hanni
Sunni
Jari
D-mack:
Evans
Mikkelsen
Adapta:
Ostberg
Wel, thats my gues for the moment.
Hyundai:
-Neuville
-Sordo
-Paddon
Citroen:
-Meeke
-Breen
-Lefevre
Toyota:
-Latvala
-Hanninen
-Lappi
M-Sport Ford:
-Ogier
-Tanak
-Camilli
D-MACK w/ Fiesta 2017:
-Evans
Adapta w/ Fiesta 2017:
-Ostberg
-Mikkelsen
Prokop WRT w/ Fiesta 2016:
-Prokop
D-MACK w/ Fiesta 2016:
-Paying driver
Hyundai w/ i20 2016:
Abbring
Citroen w/ DS3:
- Al-Qassimi
This is my guess (We should open a pickems for this :P)
""Nothing is really clear regarding the termination of the contract with Volkswagen, but we are talking to several teams about next year and I am confident we will see Andreas with a top team," he said."Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
And which team it could be?
Citroen? no.
Ford/M-sport? no... full with Ogier/Tanak/Camilli
Hyundai? no
Only chance to Toyota with Latvala and Juho, but will Tommy need him? And Toyota not a "top team".
"Toyota with Latvala"? No one know who Toyota will sign. Im not surprised if they choose Mikkelsen. Latvala seems to be over the top.... Going to be some exciting days next week :DQuote:
Originally Posted by KKS
I hope Mikelssen. DMacks and Ostberg would be a match made in hell.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
So I asked Jim Holland, Vice President, Vehicle Component and Systems Engineering at ASME IMECE today if ford is re joining WRC next year properly and he said yes.
More than likely he was talking bull$@&t or miss heard me but yeah he should know I guess and seemed confident...
Well,IF Ford returns,I expect announcements to be made during the new Fiesta presentation at Cologne,November 29.Possibly there will be a double announcement with a certain Frenchman being present...
People might need to sport referring to Ogier/M-Sport like it's a done deal.
The man himself wants to test both cars before deciding - http://www.autosport.com/news/report...ions-next-week
Looks like he's using the press conference to put a bit of pressure onto VW to cut him loose. I also don't think any other driver but Ogier is able to demand tests in multiple cars like this.
andQuote:
Originally Posted by TheFlyingTuga
VW Polo (2016)
-Teemu Suninen
-Nasser Al-Attiyah
-maybe others also
As they say in WRC.com "who orders cars first, gets car first", they don´t care are you fast driver, first ones with money get cars!
http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/novem...0--12-12-.html
Really hope we get to see a healthy selection of 2016 cars next year. Even against the 2017 crop they will still look spectacular in the right hands.
Ogier on options: http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/novem...1--12-12-.html
Will the two teams allow him to test their cars before signing? what about confidentiality? knowledge transfer? Remember Hyundai for example. they did not let Neuville try the 2017 model before signing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
There's no way it was a done deal to M-Sport... Ogier is far too smart to jump in with the first team to offer him a drive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
I would love it if he did go to them, but my head still says Citroen are the more likely.
To be honest, it might be even more exciting, if he'd opt for N.O.T's favourite flop team in Finland.
In most cases teams probably wouldn't allow it, but this is Ogier. He has all the power being a four time world champion who's availableQuote:
Originally Posted by Leon
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Pressure of Ogier in VW to release faster. Malcolm will don't lose this:)
There's a saying in the UK "speculate to accumulate". Meaning you have to take a bit of a risk to potentially make a big gain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leon
Malcolm has put his cards on the table that's he's prepared to do that. It's a calculated risk. Depends how badly Citroen want Ogier I guess.
Citroen must surely want Ogier pretty badly... it would be as good as guaranteeing them the Title.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
If they dont let Ogier test the C3 before he signs, then its a big mistake if he then goes to M-Sport who will let him test...
i can understand Msport's urge to draft Ogier and by extension thier desire to allow him to test the car before hand. However, i'm not sure if Citroen would then allow him to test the C3 without signing a contract first after testing the Ford 2017. In WRC it seem Ogier has two real choices -- Citroen or Msport (less obvious choice is Toyota), so these two teams do have some bargaining power and do not necessarily need to let Ogier hold all the cards. Granted he's WRC champion, but not every team may bend the rules the same way to get him. If Citroen believe they have the best car out here, then the meeke/breen/lefebvre combination may be able to do a competitive job against Ogier/tanak/camilli combination in ford.
it will be a new year with new cars, nothing is guaranteed as yet. We will have to wait and see if any of the new cars are built like a 2016 VW wrc tank to start with, as that was part of VW's advantage over the last few seasons