Saddam Hussein Hanged

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Originally Posted by agwiii

...one of Saddam's supporters...

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You seem desperate to reinforce one of the worst stereotypes of the Bush cheerleader — that everyone is 'either with us or against us'.

Do you seriously think that I support Saddam Hussein, and that I thought his actions when he was President of Iraq were a good thing?

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

You seem desperate to reinforce one of the worst stereotypes of the Bush cheerleader — that everyone is 'either with us or against us'.

Do you seriously think that I support Saddam Hussein, and that I thought his actions when he was President of Iraq were a good thing?

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I don't know you. There are many who still support Saddam, and you could be one of them.

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Originally Posted by Eki

Nobody here supports or defends Saddam personally. We are defending international law and order. No government of any single country should have the right to try and depose the government of another sovereign country, no matter how bad they think it is. If you think they have that right, you must also admit that then the governments of Iraq, Iran, North Korea or China also have the right to try and depose the government of the US.

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Since you claim to be Finnish, of what possible impact is the US Patriot Act to you? Why don't you focus upon Finland's foreign policy -- tell us about that?

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Originally Posted by agwiii

Arrows! That was silly, but typical leftist Colorado talk when it was published six-years ago, and it is even more-so today.

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In your opinion.

agwiii, as someone who clearly supports the Bush administration, IMHO you are providing a very poor advert for what it stands for. Democracy and freedom allow us to discuss, debate and exchange opinions, and yet many of your posts appear to be attempting to prevent discussion, debate and the exchange of opinions.

As you rightly say, this forum has no effect on foreign policy. It does, however, offer a window to the world where the opinions expressed here do exist.

As you also rightly say making assumptions can be risky, and yet you appear to be making the assumption that we should accept your opinion as the definitive one. It is not. It is just one of many.

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Originally Posted by agwiii

Since you claim to be Finnish, of what possible impact is the US Patriot Act to you? Why don't you focus upon Finland's foreign policy -- tell us about that?

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Well, for one the US has demanded the Finnish airline Finnair to gather and pass personal information of Finns traveling to the US on Finnair. And the procedures Finnish passengers have to go through when entering the US are demeaning and time consuming, I don't think Finland puts American visitors to Finland through the same kind of procedures.

Furthermore, I liked the Titus's TV series and think he's funny.

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Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1

In your opinion.

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Arrows, Newspapers are not obligated to write the truth, or to publish both sides to a story. You chose to quote an ancient article in a leftist paper.

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Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1

agwiii, as someone who clearly supports the Bush administration ...

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As Will Rogers said, "actions speak louder than words, just not very often." I have worked in a number of campaigns, and I'm happy to say, my candidates have won. If someone actually disagrees, then I challenge them to get involved, raise their issues, and do something to make a difference.

I sometimes agree with you, other times I disagree. Do I want to squelch your opinion? Absolutely not. My country's constitution would guarantee you freedom of speech, and while you're not here, that is my philosophy too. Do I want you to be my political clone? No, I just hope that whatever you believe, you put into action.

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Originally Posted by Eki

Well, for one the US has demanded the Finnish airline Finnair to gather and pass personal information of Finns traveling to the US on Finnair. And the procedures Finnish passengers have to go through when entering the US are demeaning and time consuming, I don't think Finland puts American visitors to Finland through the same kind of procedures.

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You are arguing that a sovereign nation does not have the right to protect its borders and establish policies for entry to that country. Nobody put a gun to the head of those on Finnair to enter the United States. If they don not want to accept our laws, the solution is simple -- do not travel to the United States.

Does Finland have the right to establish entry policies for Finland? Of course, they do!

Finland's entry laws with respect to citizens of the United States are irrelevant to this discussion. Whatever they are, we would obey the law, or not go to Finland.

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Originally Posted by Knock-on

How sad and childish.

Agwiii. I would suggest that virtually everyone on this forum is against the actions of Saddam Hussein. He was a tyrant and guilty of Genocide against the Iraqi people. I cannot see why anyone would defend him.

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Originally Posted by agwiii

You are arguing that a sovereign nation does not have the right to protect its borders and establish policies for entry to that country.

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Of course they do. And I think I have the right to criticize it verbally, not violently. In return, I don't have that much problem with the US criticizing other countries verbally as long as they are open to dialogue and keep their military inside their own borders.

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Originally Posted by Eki

Of course they do. And I think I have the right to criticize it verbally, not violently. In return, I don't have that much problem with the US criticizing other countries verbally as long as they are open to dialogue and keep their military inside their own borders.

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War is simply the continuation of politics using other means, and it will be probably remain a part of human civilization.