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I also wonder what the version after KitKat will be called?
Apparently Google is paying Nestle licencing fees over KitKat which raises a whole new world of possibilities. Next we might have other companies paying Google to have the next OS named after their product. Android Nike anyone?
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I've heard they are going to be sponsored by supermarkets who want to promote their fresh produce, so we can expect to see Android Apple and Android Blackberry in the near future.
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Somebody fire those marketeers.
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I've heard they are going to be sponsored by supermarkets who want to promote their fresh produce, so we can expect to see Android Apple and Android Blackberry in the near future.
no no no, Android Lime then Android Mango
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Calling Dick Tracy!
I'm of the generation that saw the cartoon and loved that watch. I will wait for the iWatch :dozey:
What they're saying about Samsung's Galaxy Gear smartwatch - CNN.com
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iPhone 5S faster again but still more of the same. Yawn
iPhone 5C just the iPhone 5 with a plastic case would be fine if it was cheap but far from it still really expensive.
More of the same. No innovation :(
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bet the NSA are happy with the new iFingerprint technology :andrea:
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iPhone 5S faster again but still more of the same. Yawn
iPhone 5C just the iPhone 5 with a plastic case would be fine if it was cheap but far from it still really expensive.
More of the same. No innovation :(
I think for all developers there is obviously a limit on how much new stuff there is to invent in such a short time.
A big innovation for Apple and also HTC one would be to actually allow the phone owners to be able
to do such a basic thing as change the battery. I don't know why HTC was so stupid that they took away
one of the most basic feature of a mobile phone. Although the newest generation of Smartphones
have pretty descent battery capacity there are many situation where an extra battery would be useful.
Sure there are battery powered chargers but they are as good as an extra proper phone battery.
From what i've heard with the HTC1, if the phone breakdown it isn't even possible to repair it
due that the way it has been assembled. Obviously if it is the battery it would be incredibly stupid
to throw away a fully functioning phone just because there is a problem with the battery and
you because of the fact that the battery is non-changeable.
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A new iPhone, with 64bit architecture, that's good. Fingerprint technology will be good if it is robust and reliable enough. Price tag is predictably high.
The 5c - not sure where this will sit in the market - it is Apples budget phone, but is far from budget - bit confusing that!
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iPhone 5C just the iPhone 5 with a plastic case would be fine if it was cheap but far from it still really expensive.
Is the 5c as high specced at the 5s though? Fingerprint and 64bit?
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The 5c - not sure where this will sit in the market - it is Apples budget phone, but is far from budget - bit confusing that!
I know that they didn't want to price it too low as it would end up taking sales away from the 5S. But as you say the 5C isn't cheap by any means, and yet by having one your are making a statement of being budget concious!
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Is the 5c as high specced at the 5s though? Fingerprint and 64bit?
No it isn't. The 5C is the same as the old iPhone 5 with a difference case.
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Is the 5c as high specced at the 5s though? Fingerprint and 64bit?
No it isn't. The 5C is the same as the old iPhone 5 with a difference case.
With that price tag? Hoodwinked or what!!!!
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The 5c - not sure where this will sit in the market - it is Apples budget phone, but is far from budget - bit confusing that!
I know that they didn't want to price it too low as it would end up taking sales away from the 5S. But as you say the 5C isn't cheap by any means, and yet by having one your are making a statement of being budget concious!
That's as hairbrained as buying a BMW 1 series for the same reason! ;)
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With that price tag? Hoodwinked or what!!!!
Yeah, the 5C has the same price you would have expected the iPhone 5 to now be selling at if it were still on sale.
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No innovation, just more of the same, Apple are losing marketshare to Android and even Windows Phone is gaining traction also :)
64bit, great! So now we can have more than 4gb of memory addresses in a phone, that's useful! NOT!
The 5c is a joke for the reasons people have already outlined.
People are going to blame Jobs carking it for Apple's lack of creativity, but they were never all that creative, having Jobs around would have given people the impression that the recent mediocre launch was something special which it isn't.
Apple shares dropped 8% on this news, Nokia's have gone up 10% because of Apple's poor showing.
No doubt the 5s will probably break records in its first week like every iPhone model does. But Apple is on a downward slide
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... share.html
Nokia have flooded the market with loads of different WP8 Lumia's and even I can't keep track of them all now. WP is up to to almost 10% marketshare in the UK, something to think about :)
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/new ... -in-the-uk
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Sort of but no. When I'm back at a my pc I'll post some screenshots. I don't want to get too hung up on this one matter though, it's just one trivial example among dozens of how the interface is broken, if someone who has used all manner of operating systems over 3 decades can't figure it out.
Righty ho, I'm back. Have a look here: http://sdrv.ms/13y6gi7
I would like to move the Amazon app into the Shopping category, Cut The Rope into Games, Dropbox into Photo, and so on. There is simply no option to do so - they insist on being lumped into "Other".
Like I say, it's really not a huge problem in itself, but it's indicative of the unfinished nature of the interface. :)[/quote:uzlgq7t6]
Whilst I agree you should be able to move stuff around, and if you're using that on a tablet, it would be very very advantageous, why not just press the start button, type in amaz and then enter, job done? Actually finding an icon and clicking on it is so last century ;)
I don't tend to use many Metro (or whatever they're called these days) apps, but I just installed amazon, pressed the start button, types in amaz and pressed enter and the amazon app launched. Now obviously if you're using a tablet then being able to move apps around would be somewhat helpful.
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Having seen the iPhone 5S launch I'm thinking my 4S is showing it's age. So was thinking of an upgrade sometime.
However the 5S isn't that impressive but the Galaxy S4 is. Although I'm probably waiting for the S5, when's that likely to be out.
I'm interested in what can you can and can't do with the Samsung and Android compared to iPhone. I like the idea of 64gb of removable storage and a removable battery (my 4S battery is well past it's best). Can you for example mount the file system of Android phones on Windows via wifi?
How smooth is the user experience compared o iOS?
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I'm interested in what can you can and can't do with the Samsung and Android compared to iPhone. I like the idea of 64gb of removable storage and a removable battery (my 4S battery is well past it's best). Can you for example mount the file system of Android phones on Windows via wifi?
How smooth is the user experience compared o iOS?
I use an app called SwiFTP on my S3 which, as you might expect, brings up the entire file system as an FTP location which you can drag/drop to/from.
Regarding the UI, I always maintain that out of the box an iPhone is the better consumer product. It has a decent browser, decent keyboard, decent... well you get the picture.
The stock utilities that came with my Samsung were, in the main, pretty awful, but that's where Android's flexibility comes into its own. You can install all manner of 3rd party replacements but unlike iOS you can specify default apps and Androids "intents" system still lets them work together.
Android rewards a bit of patience and effort, and I can fully understand why it's not for everyone. Many consumers simply want a device that "just works", to use the marketing. To someone such as yourself who is computer literate and grasps concepts swiftly, I suspect that you'll prefer Android to iOS, but it's a personal choice so as ever try to play with as many handsets as possible and make your decision from there. :)
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Having seen the iPhone 5S launch I'm thinking my 4S is showing it's age. So was thinking of an upgrade sometime.
However the 5S isn't that impressive but the Galaxy S4 is. Although I'm probably waiting for the S5, when's that likely to be out.
I'm interested in what can you can and can't do with the Samsung and Android compared to iPhone. I like the idea of 64gb of removable storage and a removable battery (my 4S battery is well past it's best). Can you for example mount the file system of Android phones on Windows via wifi?
How smooth is the user experience compared o iOS?
Predictable, but have you considered a Windoze phone?
Depending on what you actually want, you can get a rather nice phone for a lot less than you'll pay for a 5s on contract :)
http://www.buymobiles.net/mobile-phones ... beb620fa68
WP8 is buttery smooth :) No removable battery mind you........ Then again WP is good in terms of battery life. Windows Phone now accounts for 10% of sales in the UK nowadays ;)
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There no point in buying windows. It's between iOS and Android. Changing ecosystems is a big deal and you want to be going to one which is well supported. That might be Windows one day but not at the moment.
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There no point in buying windows. It's between iOS and Android. Changing ecosystems is a big deal and you want to be going to one which is well supported. That might be Windows one day but not at the moment.
What do you need that Windows PHONE doesn't offer?
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Having seen the iPhone 5S launch I'm thinking my 4S is showing it's age. So was thinking of an upgrade sometime.
However the 5S isn't that impressive but the Galaxy S4 is. Although I'm probably waiting for the S5, when's that likely to be out.
I'm interested in what can you can and can't do with the Samsung and Android compared to iPhone. I like the idea of 64gb of removable storage and a removable battery (my 4S battery is well past it's best). Can you for example mount the file system of Android phones on Windows via wifi?
How smooth is the user experience compared o iOS?
http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=what+can+samsu ... ne+can%27t :p :D
http://www.businessinsider.com/exclusiv ... 013-5?op=1
http://news.cnet.com/8301-33620_3-57601 ... -iphone-5/
There are more articles but they more or less all say the same 10 things.
Like Dave said, android in general are usually very allowing when it comes customization.
Like my 3 year old HTC Desire, which have the possibility to set 10 different alarm clock times
and each can be activated independently from each other and each can customized further
when it comes what days the alarms should be used on. Most likely all new phones have this though
but I thought it could be worth mentioning,
Also for android phones you can install non-authorized/3rd party apps (can be toggled on/off) while
Iphone only will install the apps that Apple have approved,
Simply put you get the control over your own phone, for Iphone Apple decides for you want you are not supposed to have.
The default mode is to not allow installation of such apps so no need to bother with it
if you don't want to use it.
Android phones also can be used as a regular diskdrive with windows explorer
which means that it will function like a regular hard drive/USB-memory so that you
can simply drag and drop the files to/from/within the phones storage.
I don't have an S4 nor an I5 so I can't give you more info then this.
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Is Mark going to the dark side?
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Is Mark going to the dark side?
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No point. He said he is thinking of switching to Android, not Windoze. :D
I agree with some of the earlier statements. Out of the box the iPhone is an easier to use device, but has limits on software and how much you can customize it. Out of the box most Android phones can be a bit more pain in the butt to set up for easy access to common features, but you can change so many things it's mind boggling at times.
I haven't seen enough Windows phones to form a first hand opinion. Over here it seems they can't hardly give them away.
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There no point in buying windows. It's between iOS and Android. Changing ecosystems is a big deal and you want to be going to one which is well supported. That might be Windows one day but not at the moment.
What do you need that Windows PHONE doesn't offer?
Depth of app support. First one I checked; Strava, not on Windows. End of story.
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Just watched a video overview of the Galaxy S4, looks very impressive. But of course the S5 will be better; but then there's always something new on the horizon...
Mind you iOS 7 is out tomorrow so we'll see how that changes my iPhone.
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Just watched a video overview of the Galaxy S4, looks very impressive. But of course the S5 will be better; but then there's always something new on the horizon...
Why limit yourself to the S4? The HTC One and Sony Xperia Z are equally worthy, are better built and are probably cheaper these days than the Samsung, plus aren't as bloated with pre-loaded software.
Currently I have serious doubts about Google's attitude towards privacy and security and I wouldn't buy an Android on those grounds alone.
I would also cast an eye over Windows phones, I know the apps aren't as well covered as for iphone/android but you might well be pleasantly surprised. I'm absolutely delighted with mine.
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Aren't as well covered is one way to put it. Practically non existent is another.
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Just watched a video overview of the Galaxy S4, looks very impressive. But of course the S5 will be better; but then there's always something new on the horizon...
Why limit yourself to the S4? The HTC One and Sony Xperia Z are equally worthy, are better built and are probably cheaper these days than the Samsung, plus aren't as bloated with pre-loaded software.
Currently I have serious doubts about Google's attitude towards privacy and security and I wouldn't buy an Android on those grounds alone.
I would also cast an eye over Windows phones, I know the apps aren't as well covered as for iphone/android but you might well be pleasantly surprised. I'm absolutely delighted with mine.
Google, MS, Apple it does not matter they are all the same, Apple is possible even worse then Google.
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Just watched a video overview of the Galaxy S4, looks very impressive. But of course the S5 will be better; but then there's always something new on the horizon...
Mind you iOS 7 is out tomorrow so we'll see how that changes my iPhone.
Traitor ! :p:
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Traitor ! :p:
No no.
Its great that Mark finally have seen the light. ;)
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Just watched a video overview of the Galaxy S4, looks very impressive. But of course the S5 will be better; but then there's always something new on the horizon...
Mind you iOS 7 is out tomorrow so we'll see how that changes my iPhone.
Traitor ! :p:
hehe! I'm just looking at the iPhone 5S and thinking - shall I get one. Then I think well I could spend all that money and not have something which is that much different to what I have. Now in many ways that's a good thing; but from time to time you like a change..
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Just watched a video overview of the Galaxy S4, looks very impressive. But of course the S5 will be better; but then there's always something new on the horizon...
Mind you iOS 7 is out tomorrow so we'll see how that changes my iPhone.
Traitor ! :p:
hehe! I'm just looking at the iPhone 5S and thinking - shall I get one. Then I think well I could spend all that money and not have something which is that much different to what I have. Now in many ways that's a good thing; but from time to time you like a change..
You could always pre order the 5S and by the time you get it and it arrives with the new iOS 7 interface, it will look drastically different to what you have now. The 5S doesn't interest me because it is only slightly more advanced than the iPhone 5 I have now, but if I was coming from a 4 or 4S, then its a massive jump IMO. My wife came from an iPhone 4 to a 5 and thought that was a big leap, but it depends what you expect.
Then again if you fancy a change, try Android and see how it goes. You have 14 days to return a device if you don't like it. I loved Android when I was on it for 4 or so years, but like yourself I got a little bored and thought I'd try something different like the iPhone. You don't know until you try ;) ... I don't think there is too much difference really as they both offer the same use, just achieve it in different ways. I happen to prefer the stability and smoothness of iOS now and the App Store and iTunes. I also feel the quality of the apps on iOS are slightly more refined. Tapatalk, Facebook, and Twitter are three I use the most regularly and I noticed a big difference. I also didn't like the adverts popping up all the time. I would say try Android Mark and see how it goes. You'd probably enjoy the tinkering element I would imagine. I have known friends do the jump and return to the iPhone, but everybody is different and you won't know until you try :)
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You could always pre order the 5S and by the time you get it and it arrives with the new iOS 7 interface,
My 4S will have the iOS 7 interface by tomorrow perhaps even later today.
it will look drastically different to what you have now. The 5S doesn't interest me because it is only slightly more advanced than the iPhone 5 I have now, but if I was coming from a 4 or 4S, then its a massive jump IMO. My wife came from an iPhone 4 to a 5 and thought that was a big leap, but it depends what you expect.
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You know what the main reason has been; it's this forum. Think of vBulletin as iOS and phpBB as Android ;). Realising that a change is sometimes interesting :)
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You could always pre order the 5S and by the time you get it and it arrives with the new iOS 7 interface,
My 4S will have the iOS 7 interface by tomorrow perhaps even later today.
Oh yeah I am aware iOS7 becomes available today from 1pm EST, I was just suggesting there is a change coming and if you upgraded to another iPhone, you will be part of that change but with a newer faster phone. There will be a difference between the look of iOS 7 on a 4S to a 5 or 5S too.
If you want a change then do it. I doubt the Samsung s5 will out until February next year as they tend to work on a yearly cycle of late, so you either have 6 months to wait sampling iOS or jump now and get an S4. The S4 is a very good phone and one I have played with quite extensively. Its nice, big (too big for my taste), and very different to what you are used to. Try it.
Can't say I like the look of the new forum though. It is one I am used to on Planet F1 as they use the same template, but not one I am fond of. You can't see the thread titles in the main screen and the quote system seems very old fashioned. Just my opinion though. I think my days of daily forum participation are well and truly over anyway so what do I know? At least I am not around enough to annoy people this time, or at least that is the plan lol.
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You could always pre order the 5S and by the time you get it and it arrives with the new iOS 7 interface,
... Just my opinion though. I think my days of daily forum participation are well and truly over anyway so what do I know? At least I am not around enough to annoy people this time, or at least that is the plan lol.
That's very sad to hear it, I am sure most members (myself included) loves to read your comments, and would like you to come back and post like in the old days :)
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Back to the topic...I cant wait to get my hands on the 5S :D
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Back to the topic...I cant wait to get my hands on the 5S :D
You've going to upgrade to that?