Rallye France Alsace 2013

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Originally Posted by Mirek

A tyre with proper rain pattern or hand cut is much more predictable on wet than a tyre without proper pattern.

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That is true and but wasn't my point. Tyre cutting was used not only in wet tarmac, but on gravel too (and to a much greater extent). I think it's better to allow a proper wet pattern tyre than to allow hand cutting. I seem to recollect that hand cutting was mainly abolished "in the interest of costs", as many things were in those days. So was control tyre and with if fewer tread patters and compounds as well.

Where you're absolutely correct is the non-works drivers, who don't have skill or experience to cope with. But then again, do they (or their team) have experience to cut tyres effectively? Also, it adds to their financial burden so I say again, it's better to have proper tyre from tyre manufacturer (same for all competitors) than to allow hand cutting.

This is even more pointed issue on regional events, as you pointed out.

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Even in FIA many people understand that it's wrong.

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This is not the only rule many both inside FIA as well outside it think is wrong.

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Originally Posted by Mirek

From which stage?

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Judging from the footage from yesterday, I'd guess SS11 where he went only so innocently wide before puncturing.

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Originally Posted by jonkka

That is true and but wasn't my point. Tyre cutting was used not only in wet tarmac, but on gravel too (and to a much greater extent). I think it's better to allow a proper wet pattern tyre than to allow hand cutting. I seem to recollect that hand cutting was mainly abolished "in the interest of costs", as many things were in those days. So was control tyre and with if fewer tread patters and compounds as well.

Where you're absolutely correct is the non-works drivers, who don't have skill or experience to cope with. But then again, do they (or their team) have experience to cut tyres effectively? Also, it adds to their financial burden so I say again, it's better to have proper tyre from tyre manufacturer (same for all competitors) than to allow hand cutting.

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I was referring to the hand cutting as an option in the situation when there is only a single pattern tyre (and I actually meant only asphalt events). I do agree that a proper rain tyre is a better solution.

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Originally Posted by jonkka

Judging from the footage from yesterday, I'd guess SS11 where he went only so innocently wide before puncturing.

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Thanks, I though so.

Loeb out.

When he joined this rally i really enjoined watching again and following live timing. No i can make other sunday plans.


Cya.

SS18 about to start ;)

In reverse order?

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Originally Posted by jonkka

In reverse order?

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seems like that, no idea why

http://www.sport-team.org/site/chaine11.html

Ostberg lost a minute, Hirvonen will pas him.

They've drank too much red wine and forgot that power stage has already been run...