After having watched Evan's onboards on ss3 and 4 i would say i did a good job of even reaching the finish, looks like driving on slicks with those tyres
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After having watched Evan's onboards on ss3 and 4 i would say i did a good job of even reaching the finish, looks like driving on slicks with those tyres
But what about Bergkvist? He was very slow everytime a saw him pass. Did he had some problem with the car or something? I hope so otherwise I fear the guy is not the huge talent he seemed.
p.s. thank god Rallyper doesn't know where I live :spinhead:
reading all these comments and conversations about Evans and Dmack makes me appreciate Tänak's 16 season even more.
for me the performance isnt weird at all, the tyre just isnt as universal as michelin.
Bergkvist had various problems.Broken gearbox on Thursday night,several punctures during the next 2 days and brake troubles on Sunday.Adding that to the fact that the DS3 is not competitive and it will be soon be replaced by a C3 model, you get the picture.Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
Thanks, I was not aware of these trouble, I'm pretty sure he had that brake issues when I saw him then, he seemed not competitive at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by macebig
Obviously, DMack has take alternative risk as they took last year (a bit softer compound for gravel). They made a tyre that is likely to work very well on little bit frozen asphalt, dry aspalt, humid asphalt and not working in snowy-slushy conditions. Looking back to the last years average Monte, it was relatively wise decision, This year was just relatively exceptional Monte :) Not average ;) So and they failed on that field and excelled on the other field (dry stages).Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Re Evans slowness then speed:
Perhaps his tyre issues on the Friday, especially the morning, were due to his off into Ogier's ditch. He really struggled and scrambled out himself whereas Ogier waited for fan help. Perhaps this weakened/lost the studs and therefore his grip on the remaining stage/s..
His good times later on in the rally were on the Soft/ Supersofts, not studded. The other runners were also on similar (Michelin) tyres so his wins there were fair and square.
yeh I had him down for the win too. Shame about the road incident that put him out of Sunday's running, anything Kris had in his pocket he would have shown it in the power stage, and his road position would have put him in front of Neuville in the running order so would have earned 4 or 5 points with the weather change on that last stage.Quote:
Originally Posted by rage82
His bad times were on studded. The other runners were also on similar (Michelin) tires, so his epic timeloss was fair and square.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
#logic
Now again in even simpler language: If one tire type from DMACK can be much worse, then other can also be much better. Remember Pirelli? On dry tarmac 0.5s/km slower, on wet tarmac 1s/km faster.
And all experienced fellows on this forum should be aware of, as in other youngsters cases, that Emil was in Monaco to learn, to drive through, and finish. He wasn´t there to win this year. Compared to other favourites of yours he has maybe 3-4 times more to prove his speed in Monte.Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
Btw wait untill Sweden and we could see better performance, less learning.
@AL14 I know your mailbox. ;)
I'm going to have to read through all the pages of this thread but in saying that...
My first Monte Carlo and boy was it an experience! The atmosphere, the new cars, the stages, the conditions and just the feeling of being there! Amazing. Shall share some images if you haven't seen them already.
Agreed, but the DS3 is way more difficult to set up and drive on both Snow/Ice and Gravel compared to the Ford and Skoda. So comparison of the drivers are harder with so different cars.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
The 208 is slightly better on the loose, but a long way from the two topcars in R5.
Over the last couple of years I've practised my data wrangling and data visualisation skills by tinkering with F1 data, and only ever really watched the Wales Rally on a regular basis. Having noticed some regular coverage of WRC on Red Bull TV this year, I thought I'd give WRC data a go... Here's a first sketch - stage by stage results from RC1:
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Code to generate the sketch is here.
you can see my photos here
http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=1506
Sangriel - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neVvM6iyHuU
Excellent video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idg0XVaK2s4
I know his slow times were on studded tyres... but DMack studded tyres. Thats why he was so slow, not because he's a bad driver.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
Once he was on their soft tyres on tarmac his times were good/ great.
We had the same situation with Tanak on DMack's last year. Whenever he was slow it was the tyres fault - nobody blamed him. So why blame Evans now ?
AUTOSPORT:
"Elfyn Evans spent Friday running among the WRC2 cars as the DMACK tyres struggled for grip on the ice.
But as conditions improved, the rubber came alive and three stage wins on Saturday allowed him back through to an eventual sixth place."
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Originally Posted by stefanvv
hahaha sanglieeeeeeeeeeerrr!!!
what does it means sanglier?
Word for boar in french language!!Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Specifically it is a 'Wild boar' in other words a savage unruly entity or as Ken Brock has termed it 'hoonigan'.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheFlyingTuga
Every language has its equivalent term for an entertaining, usually sideways, type of driver.
Hello all!
Here I post our video from Monte! A lot of ambiance in Tourniquets, zone flat out at Faye and Lardier!
Best regards.
Hope you enjoy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2VUHXRuAD4
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http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/mont...1485211246.jpg
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was about to link it. Very nice oneQuote:
Originally Posted by Bartek
If you're blaming the slow times on the tyres performing worse than the competition then to be consistent you should credit his fast times with the tyres performing better than the competition. Otherwise its like trying to pull a heads-I-win/tails-you-lose coin toss, doesn't convince many people over the age of 5.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
The reality is probably a combination of both tyres and driving, he's often been inconsistent in his speed in the past (sometimes blindingly fast, sometimes head-scratchingly slow) without really seeming to know why.
How can you use statistics to take into account the context behind the stage times though? Ie that everyone who was on Rally2 would be under instruction to finish the rest of the rally at all costs, so naturally their pace is going to be off when they Rally2 (see Juho and Kris as good examples)... And what about the difference in tyre choice vs the correct tyre choice? I don't think you can use data unless you add in the variables that impact the validity of the data...Quote:
Originally Posted by seb_sh
I think he could have perform better on snow taking more risky driving style, but at the end he seemed to keep his clean driving which probably wasn't the best solution with his tyres.Quote:
Originally Posted by GravelBen
Onboar of Tänak for last couple of corners: https://www.facebook.com/WorldRally/...4324412975678/
This video has already over 360 000 views!
He just slid on the last corner almost binning it while he was having pretty good margin to Sordo.
he was running on 3 cylinders and also did not have any split info.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlowSon
For once I agree with NOT! :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.The was running on 3 cylinders and also did not have any split info.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlowSon
Tanak didn't know he had enough margin, the ~40s he lost to Sordo on the way up the hill probably felt like about 3 minutes and he wouldn't have known how much he was gaining or losing on the downhill - he might have known that Sordo was on much worse tyres for the snow/ice, but even if he knew that he wouldn't have known what the time difference was.
He did almost overcook it, but for all he knew the place was coming down to tenths of a second so he gave it everything.
I think he was sliding it as much as he could. He would lose traction but keep the RPM up. Running in 3 cylinders it would benefit alot from high RPM because you would have some much less torque. Also if Sordo had passed him, also Breen have had, so he would have been 5th. He was going for the 3rd place or nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlowSon
I was just wondering that how much more downforce and traction new aerodynamics give. What was the speed by Sordo on the last corner and Tänak? Can anyone chech from WRC+? And then someone needs to calculate the downforce :P I remember that Ott was saying that new cars offer a possibility to make big caps if you are brave. So, basically, the faster you drive, the higher is downforce.
You an half FB views since they count everyone who has autoplay on on scroll pastQuote:
Originally Posted by bluuford
Really? You should have said something last year about this...Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Tanak talked in one of his end of stage talks about "the garbage I had last year". I think that is a bit harsh as in some conditions the DMACKS are better.
I wish Tanak all the best and enough about last year and the tyres. If anything the car let him down more.