People Power

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

I see almost no similarities at all. The TEA Party is, no matter how much you may wish to portray it as being an independent, non-partisan organisation, very specifically affiliated with one particular political party. This is simply not the case with the Occupy movements.

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Riiiight. Look at both movements with a critical eye, and you will see they are the same in organization and affiliation. It's just that one is on the left and one is on the right. Oh and one is involved in violence, rapes, hatred, and so on.

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Originally Posted by Rollo

Taken together, if society becomes more uneven, it has a tendency to remain that way unless acted on by a major social or calamitous event. Basically, because a Corporation is a non-corporeal entity, it has no conscience and therefore acts as such. Also, I think it's kind of obvious that people generally are losing any sense of moral compass they once had for a number of reasons.

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And that is why continuing this way will not have a happy end, and that's a thought I would rather not think about.

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Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1

Right, so how are economic inequalities that can result in poverty, a lack of education and poor health (all of which affect an individual's ability to fulfill their potential) any different?

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You can not legislate away any of those issues. Nor can any altruistc mumbo-jumbo eliminate them.

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Originally Posted by chuck34

You can not legislate away any of those issues. Nor can any altruistc mumbo-jumbo eliminate them.

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Is that a defeatist attitude there? I'm shocked.

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Originally Posted by ioan

I think I posted the answer a few pages back.
Taxes need to be equal and enforced, no more loopholes, no more offshore business and similar crap.

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I would agree with this. And I bet millions of people on the left and the right would also agree.

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Originally Posted by ioan

All we need is some politicians who want to make it work, and this is where the difficult part starts.

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Why is it difficult? And just because it's difficult we souldn't try? Or should we just protest with no plan to change anything?

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Originally Posted by Rollo

Who do you vote for that will make any difference whatsoever? It's worse in the United States because you've voluntarily shouted out the left (largely as a result of McCarthyism) and now have no plurality of voices. You're given a choice of almost identical nitwits, both of which have proven that they're incapable of running the country and an entire economic system that's perfectly fine with that.

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The free market works in politics just as well as it does in economics. If there is so much demand for a particular voice (in this case one that isn't tied to corportations), then a candidate will eventually show up to fill that demand. Why doesn't one of the leaders/organizers of OWS step up and run for office?

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Originally Posted by ioan

And that is why continuing this way will not have a happy end, and that's a thought I would rather not think about.

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Ok. So what is your plan to avoid this un-happy end?

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Originally Posted by ioan

Is that a defeatist attitude there? I'm shocked.

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Far from defeatist. I believe in a truly free market, one where governments have the bare minimum of influence. That free market will allow those with the desire to avoid poverty, bad education, and poor healthcare.

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Originally Posted by chuck34

I would agree with this. And I bet millions of people on the left and the right would also agree.

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They would, and do.

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Originally Posted by chuck34

Riiiight. Look at both movements with a critical eye, and you will see they are the same in organization and affiliation. It's just that one is on the left and one is on the right. Oh and one is involved in violence, rapes, hatred, and so on.

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No, chuck, you are wrong. This statement betrays your complete lack of awareness of the sort of people engaged in the Occupy protests. They are simply not affiliated to a single party in the manner of the TEA Party members.