Max Mosley opens a can of worms.

Further allegations are likely to emerge in the coming weeks. In particular the only team with a driver who is of mixed race, is fined massively last year for there conduct in receiving information illegally. It is a tenuous link, but it is also the sort of story these news papers will sieze on.

The uncovering of more of Max Moselys past and his right wing attitudes and the fact he tried to stand as a pollitician for his farthers party is further information that Max could do with out being made public. Now that many of the countries involved with F1 here of these facts, his standing is going to be even less. Further more it was not so much the N**i connotations that upset various royal families it was the simple fact he was 1) paying proffesional ladies for their services, 2) the fact he was behaving dishonourably towards his family.

In many countries family, dignity and so on play a larger part in their lives than those of us in the UK, generally hold. Some may think it isn't so bad, many think it is appalling. Not only is Max dragging down the FIA, but he is slowly destroying his own reputation. He is clearly ill informed as to the publics opinion of him. The news coverage is hugely damaging for him. He's not a rock star, he's and old power crazed man who is loosing grip of reallity. If he wants to sue me, over it bring it on....!

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Originally Posted by MAX_THRUST

In many countries family, dignity and so on play a larger part in their lives than those of us in the UK, generally hold. Some may think it isn't so bad, many think it is appalling.

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Now, which country was it that that 30 year old woman has been nicked for sh*****g on a beach being out of wedlock (despite once being warned by the police)......?

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

Again, I ask the question, if what Max has been doing is so harmless, why does he feel the need to conceal it?

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Because it isn't anyones business, except his own?

It's a simple right to privacy.

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Originally Posted by ioan

There is no impact on F1, or any other motorsport...

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So headlines like "Bizarre sex life of F1 boss Max Mosley revealed to court" has no impact on F1?

A GP organiser asking that Max does not attend the Bahrain GP.
Toyota, Honda, Mercedes & BMW criticise the FIA President and ask him to consider his position.
Germany's national motoring body request that that FIA President "reconsider his position".
Dutch Federation want Max the FIA President to resign.
American Automobile Association want the FIA President to quit.
Motorsport New Zealand, Canadian Automobile Association, Motorsport South Africa want the FIA President to quit.
Porsche say scandal makes F1 unattractive.
Past (Ickx, Lauda, Hill) and present drivers (Webber) say the FIA President should either quit or reconsider his position.
Israel withdraws invite to the FIA President to discuss motorsport in the region.
The FIA President unable to attend offical FIA functions at Monaco GP.
F1 engine manufacturers skip meeting with FIA President at Monaco.
19 automobile clubs ask the FIA President to resign.
Ecclestone calls for FIA President to resign.
Concerns of split within the FIA and F1 after the FIA President wins EGM vote.

No impact on F1 :confused: :crazy:

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Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1

So headlines like "Bizarre sex life of F1 boss Max Mosley revealed to court" has no impact on F1?

A GP organiser asking that Max does not attend the Bahrain GP.
Toyota, Honda, Mercedes & BMW criticise the FIA President and ask him to consider his position.
Germany's national motoring body request that that FIA President "reconsider his position".
Dutch Federation want Max the FIA President to resign.
American Automobile Association want the FIA President to quit.
Motorsport New Zealand, Canadian Automobile Association, Motorsport South Africa want the FIA President to quit.
Porsche say scandal makes F1 unattractive.
Past (Ickx, Lauda, Hill) and present drivers (Webber) say the FIA President should either quit or reconsider his position.
Israel withdraws invite to the FIA President to discuss motorsport in the region.
The FIA President unable to attend offical FIA functions at Monaco GP.
F1 engine manufacturers skip meeting with FIA President at Monaco.
19 automobile clubs ask the FIA President to resign.
Ecclestone calls for FIA President to resign.
Concerns of split within the FIA and F1 after the FIA President wins EGM vote.

No impact on F1 :confused: :crazy:

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That doesn't count if you have your head in the sand.

You should know that facts have no influence over ioans opinions :laugh:

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Originally Posted by theugsquirrel

Because it isn't anyones business, except his own?

It's a simple right to privacy.

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OK, so why the use of pseudonyms. Not openly volunteering something is different to concealing it, isn't it?

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

Not openly volunteering something is different to concealing it, isn't it?

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Correct. So what?

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Originally Posted by theugsquirrel

Correct. So what?

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Why use a pseudonym. If it is all above board, that surely would not be necessary.

Perhaps he felt, his actions would not befit those of a man in his position.

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Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1

So headlines like "Bizarre sex life of F1 boss Max Mosley revealed to court" has no impact on F1?

A GP organiser asking that Max does not attend the Bahrain GP.
Toyota, Honda, Mercedes & BMW criticise the FIA President and ask him to consider his position.
Germany's national motoring body request that that FIA President "reconsider his position".
Dutch Federation want Max the FIA President to resign.
American Automobile Association want the FIA President to quit.
Motorsport New Zealand, Canadian Automobile Association, Motorsport South Africa want the FIA President to quit.
Porsche say scandal makes F1 unattractive.
Past (Ickx, Lauda, Hill) and present drivers (Webber) say the FIA President should either quit or reconsider his position.
Israel withdraws invite to the FIA President to discuss motorsport in the region.
The FIA President unable to attend offical FIA functions at Monaco GP.
F1 engine manufacturers skip meeting with FIA President at Monaco.
19 automobile clubs ask the FIA President to resign.
Ecclestone calls for FIA President to resign.
Concerns of split within the FIA and F1 after the FIA President wins EGM vote.

No impact on F1 :confused: :crazy:

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Not surprisingly, you didn't mention these....

Donington owners coughing up £100million to host British GP,
American looking at starting new F1 team.
Talk of US GP returning to Indy.
Middle Eastern countries wanting to host GP's.
No major manufacturers leaving F1.
More FIA members vote for Mosley to stay than to go.
Attendance & viewing figures, vital for sponsors, totally unaffected.

Compared to your list, most of which are non-issues outside the inner-workings of the FIA, that shows that interest in Formula One has not been affected by Mosley's personal-life activities.

In fact, I'd like to see your reasons why, if Mosley is such a dead duck, any of these have happened?

According to your stance, Mosley is damaging the sport.

The facts say otherwise.

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Originally Posted by tamburello

Not surprisingly, you didn't mention these....

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I agree it's not surprising because I was directly responding to ioan's claim that "there is no impact on F1, or any other motorsport..." A claim that is demonstrably not true.

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Originally Posted by tamburello

Compared to your list, most of which are non-issues outside the inner-workings of the FIA, that shows that interest in Formula One has not been affected by Mosley's personal-life activities.

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The majority of the examples I gave relate directly to the inner workings of the FIA (i.e. the reaction of member clubs) or the effect on the FIA President's ability to do his job as normal (withdrawn invitations, cancelled meeting).

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Originally Posted by tamburello

In fact, I'd like to see your reasons why, if Mosley is such a dead duck, any of these have happened?

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Most haven't (!!) and if they do are more likely to be down to Bernie's persuasive powers than who is (or isn't) FIA President. The one example you give that relates to the FIA was hardly a surprise given that the EGM was called by the FIA President and run on his terms.