I only know about Suzuki team coming back. I don't know drivers, Burkhart was just my guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by morganmilan
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I only know about Suzuki team coming back. I don't know drivers, Burkhart was just my guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by morganmilan
OK, thnx everybody. So let´s wait and see... :rolleyes:
Why would any manufacturer want to come back to a championship with just a handful of cars? JWRC is close to being six feet under...Quote:
Originally Posted by br21
It's Suzuki Sport Europe, hungarian based team, I think could be called semi-works.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iskald
I only have an interest in the drivers with a priority number because I know a percentage of them do not do more than one rally (certainly those who have an entry number #60 or over it appears - though we have Ammar Namous who is #57 or Mazan Tanash who has #58), but is there a chance Kruuda will do 2011 long term?
Kruuda does JWRC 2010 with Suzuki Swift S1600, then he does most of Estonian Championship rallies with Honda Civic Type-R and he also plans a few selected rounds in IRC and Latvian Rally Championship. He is only 17 years old and it seems that there should not be any problems with funding as long as he drives with 2WD cars. So, if he shows some progress then there is a big possibility that we can see him in next year as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by EavesFan09
Villagra also does Turkey. At least 15-16 WRCars will be in Turkey.
Great news, thanks. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by bluuford
Dear people, where's the people around this beautiful site???
http://www.nic.fi/~globe1/rally/paradise/
Bluuford, has Kruuda got potential or shows potential?Quote:
Originally Posted by bluuford
Definitely slower compared to estonian top FWD young guns Plangi, Kangur and Koitla. But he seems to be a bit younger as well, if my memory serves me well.Quote:
Originally Posted by noel157
Kangur is also 17, Koitla is something near 21 and Plangi should be also near 18 years old. But definitely he has the smallest amount of experience and therefore it is hard to compare those drivers. The others have all done some IRC and WRC rallies and that is quite a big difference. Kruuda has done only some rallies in Latvia.Quote:
Originally Posted by cali
Last year on youth rally in short stages he was as fast as Kangur but on the longer stages he needs more consistency.
You can see stage results here from the last round in Estonian Championship:
http://autosport.ee/rallyreg/?page=3...d=0&lang_id=2&
and one rally with very short stages:
http://autosport.ee/rallyreg/?page=3...ace_ss_id=139&
Lets say, compared to the other JWRC contenders he should have the same speed as the most of them (except Neuville and Bonato if he joins)
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Neuville is still doing JWRC? He has a deal with Kronos now for IRC
He's doing both :)Quote:
Originally Posted by pucky54
Really pretty programme for him :)
Thanks Cali and Bluuford about Kruuda. Will be interesting to see how he matures.
Neuville's programme:Quote:
Originally Posted by Walach
WRC: [16 - 18/4] Rally of Turkey
IRC: [26 - 28/04] Rally Canaries
WRC: [28 - 30/5] Vodafone Rally de Portugal
IRC: [04 - 06/06] Rallye de Sardaigne
IRC: [24 - 26/06] Rallye d'Ypres
WRC: [9 - 11/7] Rally Bulgaria
IRC: [05 - 07/08] Rallye de Madeire
WRC: [20 - 22/8] ADAC Rally Deutschland
IRC: [23 - 25/09] Rallye de San Remo
WRC: [30/9 - 3/10] Rallye de France
IRC: [14 - 16/10] Rally Scotland
WRC: [22 - 24/10] RACC Rally Spain
Chp/Bel Condroz [05/11 - 07/11] with Kronos in the Peugeot 207
Seems like Duval blew up his last ever change to become a rallydriver again, he refused an offer from Proton to do 13 rally's with them, gaining 125000 Euro's. He had to do some rally's in Asia and the rest in IRC, but Mr. Duval prefers to stay in his garage. Nobody understands him anymore, even his manager, his parents and his good friend Olivier de Wilde (from La Derniere Heure) don't know what he is trying to prove.
Here is the article from La Derniere Heure, unfortunally in French :
Duval devient le roi des occasions… manquées
(30/03/2010)
© LPR
Il préfère refuser un beau contrat Proton pour se consacrer à son garage. Le début de la fin…
CUL-DES-SARTS Sans volant officiel depuis quelques années après s’être grillé les ailes chez Citroën, Ford, Kronos et Skoda et s’être mis à dos des mécènes comme Christian Kelders ou Steven Vergalle (il a même encore décliné récemment une proposition de Geko pour rouler en Belgique !), François Duval a refusé ce week-end la dernière occasion sans doute de faire rebondir sa carrière internationale.
Peut-être encore marqué par ses accidents au Japon en 2008 (son équipier Patrick Pivato s’en remet seulement aujourd’hui), à Ypres et au Condroz l’an dernier, Dudu n’a plus le feu sacré. Au creux de la vague, il a maintenant touché le fond.
Après avoir surmonté des problèmes sentimentaux et récupéré sa compagne Marion à Paris, on le croyait mieux mentalement. Mais il n’en est, hélas! rien.
Lentement mais sûrement, le pilote de Cul-des-Sarts a continué à faire le vide autour de lui. Au point que même ses plus fervents supporters ne croient plus aujourd’hui qu’il puisse redevenir celui qu’ils ont adoré. Car si Obélix reste certainement un des cinq meilleurs rallymen de la planète, il n’a plus l’envie de le prouver. De s’investir. Le ressort est cassé.
Il vient de refuser un contrat en or avec le constructeur malaisien Proton qui le voulait à tout prix après un essai plus que concluant et lui proposait un contrat de 125.000 euros pour apparemment 13 courses dont les six du championnat Asie-Pacifique où il ferait équipe avec Alister McRae.
Pourtant pas en position de faire la fine bouche, Duval Jr préfère se consacrer au garage familial dont il est devenu le patron. À négocier des Auris d’occasions plutôt que de saisir cette magnifique opportunité de rebondir avec un constructeur.
“C’est difficile à expliquer,” confie un trentenaire à côté de ses pompes. “Ma décision est liée à tout un ensemble de choses. Il n’y a pas que le garage. J’ai dit que je voulais bien rouler en IRC mais pas en Asie. Je ne pense pas que cela puisse me servir d’aller gagner face à des Groupe N et des pilotes sans nom. Tout le monde trouvera cela normal. Cela fait beaucoup de voyages et de jours d’absence pour un championnat qui ne m’excite pas. Il y a cinq ans, je n’aurais pas hésité, mais depuis ma victoire en 2005 en Australie, je n’ai plus rien fait de bien. Et aujourd’hui, si je gagne honnêtement ma vie, c’est grâce à l’achat et la vente des voitures d’occasions.”
L’ex-numéro 1 belge préfère donc désormais disputer des courses de villages, faire du rallycross ou tourner à Mettet après ses heures ou quand le garage est fermé.
Avec un tel talent, on peut parler de réel gâchis, sans doute le plus grand du sport automobile. Une carrière nous rappelant l’ascension puis la descente aux enfers d’un certain Frank Vandenbroucke. En espérant que l’issue finale ne soit pas la même...
Olivier de Wilde
© La Dernière Heure 2010
What a tw**.
He got used to top drives, and we know Proton isn't their yet.
anymore info about Proton selection. why lets say they did not choose Atko?Quote:
Originally Posted by wwbroe
It takes quite a big personality to refuse an offer like that. First of all to refuse such an amount of money and second of all to understand that you just don't have it (anymore). Let's hope he doesn't regret it later...Quote:
Originally Posted by wwbroe
He was best paid young gun (millions) in 2005.. So why to risk his head (Panizzi once said that) for that amount of money..He can drive in Belgium some old fiat just for fun.. He's right.
Yes, but he is losing an opportunity to show that he could still be a good driver to get a good seat on IRC or WRC in 2011. If he do not show value in international competitions, may run the risk of being forgotten.
Lets hope they go to Atko now... and that Chris doesn't get his nose out of joint in being 2nd choice :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Leon
I'm susrprised Duval refused... honestly, he's not very good. The few good results he had were often due to the retirements of better drivers. Like, his only win was after Loeb, Petter, Marcus and Colin had all retired and the only challenger left was Rovanpera. Chris is definitely better.
Rough translation:
He prefers to deny a fair contract for Proton to focus on his garage. The Beginning of the End ...
CUL-DES-SARTS Without official wheel for several years after being grilled wings at Citroën, Ford, Skoda and Kronos have alienated bosses and have Christian Kelders gold Vergalle Steven (he even declined a recent proposal Geko to travel to Belgium!), Francois Duval refused this weekend the last time probably bounce to his international career.
Perhaps influenced by his accident in Japan in 2008 (his teammate Patrick Pivato relies only today), Ypres and Condroz last year, Dudu no longer the sacred fire. At low ebb, he has now hit bottom.
Having overcome emotional problems and recovered his wife Marion in Paris, we thought better mentally. But it is, alas! nothing.
Slowly but surely, the pilot of Cul-des-Sarts continued to vacuum around him. At the point that even his most ardent supporters no longer believe it to be again now that they loved. For while Obelix is certainly one of the five best rally drivers in the world, he no longer wanted to prove. To invest. The spring is broken.
He recently refused a contract with the manufacturer or Malaysian Proton wanted at all costs after a trial rather than conclusive and offered him a contract of 125.000 euro for apparently 13 races including six from the Asia-Pacific Championships where he would team with Alister McRae.
Yet in no position to be choosy, Duval Jr. prefers to devote to family garage where he Became the boss. Auris opportunities to negotiate rather than take this great opportunity to bounce back with a manufacturer.
"It's hard to explain," says a thirty beside his pumps. "My decision is linked to a variety of things. It's not just the garage. I said I wanted to ride in the IRC but not in Asia. I do not think this can serve me to go win against the Group N drivers nameless. Everyone found it normal. That's a lot of trips and days of absence for a league that does not turn me. Five years ago, I would not hesitate, but since my victory in 2005 in Australia, I have done nothing good. And now, if I earn my living honestly, thanks to the buying and selling second-hand cars. "
The former No. 1 Belgian now prefers to play the race villages, making gold rallycross turn Mettet after hours, or when the garage is closed.
With such talent, one can speak of a real mess, probably the greatest sports car. A career remembering the ascent and the descent into hell of a Frank Vandenbroucke. Hoping that the outcome is not the same ...
When drove for RB škoda WRC Panizzi said why to risk my life for almost no money at all.. These guys used to earn big money and now Duval should travel all around the world for 125 000 euros. That's bad offer. I agree with him.. Paying boys ruined rally sport..
If that is the case then this sport has been ruined since day one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
Not really.. There's so much paying boys in WRC at the moment that team bosses don't have needs to pay anyone.. Petter Solberg is better driver then Hirvonen and Latvala for me but that guys were payers so after some they became standard works drivers (Latvala is not paid from ford at all).. There are only two HIGHLY PAID drivers at the moment in WRC: The Ice Man and Seb.Loeb.. Unfortunately..
Don Jippo is right. There've been paying drivers for as long as there's been rallying and they're certainly not the problem in the sport.
Duval was a real talent and deserved every top result he achieved. It would be great to see him in a competitive car again.
However the decision is his to make and people should respect that. Turning down a drive like this doesn't make him a "tw**" at all.
The money, after all, is mere wages and his comments about the APRC are quite correct.
It's interesting that this guy Olivier de Wilde is described as a "good friend". Even allowing for the rough babelfish style translation, I'm not sure that article is the work of a good friend.
Why dont you for once throw in some facts to back your claims, making all kind of he earns this and this guy earns that, makes you look day by day more like a wind bag, you talk much, but never any substance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
Why all you Finns find yourself affected whenever I wrote anything about such thing.. Now I'm even more happy that Seb.Loeb who came from nowhere beat Hirvonen (ex payer) again!!! I'm also happy that Todt beat Vatanen for FIA presidental seat!!! :) It's only one Finn at the moment who I like: The Ice Man..
To prove you are a good driver you will need a fairly decent car. Is Proton at that level? I seriously doubt it.
If he plans to return to a competitive level, moving to Proton wouldn't add value to his career. On the other hand, the belgian championship is competitive enough to show one's skills.
I think i said that it used to be his friend and sometimes even manager, but he is so disappointed now that the article isn't one of a so called friend. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by sollitt
Untill this morning Olivier de Wilde was allways writing in positive way about Duval, even too much sometimes, but now i think his eyes went open. :D
So that was your constructive answer, how come am i not at all surprised.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
You look and sound here on the forum just like the Stupid Duval! :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
And such as Tomi says "Why dont you for once throw in some facts to back your claims".
We were as a matter of fact not talking concerning Loeb, Todt and other french who spoil only the WRC with their behaviour and disposition! :s mokin:
Then you're stupid Brother John.
Stupid is as stupid does ;)
No cars for R'bach or Gigi (not sure if any of them even had a deal for this season in any case):
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/82551
Skoda return ? http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/n...50166446405534