According infos of local guys who talked with Mads, Fiesta 2016 in MC, 2017 from Sweden...
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According infos of local guys who talked with Mads, Fiesta 2016 in MC, 2017 from Sweden...
That would rule out the main team then I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
Meeke states he's happy to work with Ogier if he returns to Citroen
I doubt anyone cares, either in here or at Citroen.Quote:
Originally Posted by GigiGalliNo1
Motorsport news out today. Simmi I'm waiting for news :)
Haha okay buddy here is some news:Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
- Hyundai confirmed to MN they will make no approach for Ogier.
- Tommi confirmed Juho Hanninen will drive all 14 rounds. Reiterates third Yaris will be available by Corsica.
- MN speculating a car share between Breen/Lefebvre could be made to accommodate Ogier. Nothing we haven't heard before.
- Sources in M-Sport remain confident a deal can be found for Elfyn Evans.
- Marcus Gronholm says an R5 Polo was already on the agenda prior to the pull out. He also says there may be a final sign-off test with the '17 WRC car. Before the three chassis are laid to rest. No plans to sell or rebadge them.
- Red Bull have confirmed they will continue with their personal sponsorship for all three VW drivers next year. They also say there is no immediate decision ("nothing planned") on redirecting that VW team sponsorship.
As Gigi again said without citing the source - Meeke said he's happy to work with Ogier. "I would have no problem if Sebastien came back to Citroen. I haven't discussed this with the team, but from a personal perspective I'd maybe prefer to have him in the same team rather than in a car which might be perceived to be better. It would be a more level playing field, if you like."
"I had some issues over a couple of potential drivers for this year - I was a bit worried they could be disruptive in the team - but that's not the case with Ogier, Latvala or Mikkelsen. For me, those guys are all ready to roll their sleeves up and get stuck in and that's all I want to do."
Let me guess... Neuville? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
Kronos bad blood?After so many years?Hold a grudge found a meaning here...
Never assume... that just makes an 'ass of u & me'.Quote:
Originally Posted by EightGear
I think its safe to say he"ll be driving a Ford, but not what team he"ll be in.
yeah, very interesting who is he referring to?Quote:
Originally Posted by smsgrafica
thanks for the news Simmi!
Not a difficult one reallyQuote:
Originally Posted by smsgrafica
Why Neuville would have been diruptive while Ogier not?
Because Neuville is a Princess. Ogier is a King.Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
Look at some of Paddons responses in the past about who he'd like to have as a team mate or who is a nice person out of the car or who makes jokes, or who helps who with their driving. The answers were always, Sordo or Meeke, or Tanak or.... but never Neuville.
Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grundo Farb
Itīs the same in the other way, too. Paddon is an arrogant bunch, who thought he could win everything. He was set back on his own feet in the meantime.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grundo Farb
Seriously? Where has he said anything to justify that??? At no point has he said he could win anything. Show me that.Quote:
Originally Posted by WUff1
He has always said he didn't expect to win anything this year and was targeting next year for a win and to challenge for the championship in 2018.
Are you a Trump supporter who doesn't believe a fact should get in the way of a good rant?
Wuff1 is right. No matter how good driver Paddon is, he has "very big mouth". I have noticed it many times during last 3 or 4 years. Not only in case of talks about Neuville. It is his first attribute which characterize him best.
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Originally Posted by WUff1
I agree, sometimes this season his mouth was too big. I didn't see Neuville criticizing his teammate in public (or i missed something).
"a big mouth" can be a way of manipulation as well.
Wuff1 is wrong and so are you. Paddon talks directly without much of a public-relations filter, true, but he has NEVER said anything arrogant about how he could win everything or anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by liposh
Even in lower series and such he never talked like that - in the NZRC he avoided talking about his leads, championship chances etc. almost to a point where it was humorous he didn't because he was winning so big. It is a cultural thing in New Zealand - "tall poppies" get cut down first - bragging is just not done, especially not when it's not justified by actual achievement.
That's not to say he hasn't said some brutally honest stuff about other drivers that nobody else would have said, and got in that public argument with Ogier that one time, but that's not the same as arrogantly thinking or saying you are better, and I'd argue that having some honest characters is good for the sport.
Yeah I think some people confuse talking/having an opinion with arrogance.
At the end of the day we want our rally drivers to say what they are thinking. The sport isn't exactly bursting with personality so in that sense it's great to have the likes of Ogier, Meeke, Paddon etc.
I always liked rally drivers for being straight forward and speaking frankly, as opposed to the 'nice boys' of f1. I miss having more characters in the field, like Gronholm,who was never afriad of saying exactly what he thought, unfiltered...
I am not here to judge who is arrogant and who is only very talkative. I just want to say every coin has two sides, so Wuff1 is (at least a little bit) right at his point. You canīt say Neuville is the bad guy and Paddon is the good one. It depends on the angle of view.
One thing I would like to say on this, who here has met Paddon or Neuville or even Ogier. My conversations with each of them hasn't shown arrogance. They are each striving to be the best they can be and are at the top of their game. I remember a chat with Ogier before he went to VW, he was sitting at the bar at the after party at Rally Australia, no one wanted to know him. I had a chat with him for about half an hour and there was no arrogance just another rally driver wanting to achieve his dream. I have great respect for Ogier, Paddon and Neuville they manage to achieve their dreams and put up with all the social media crap that is around. They are drivers with abilities way beyond what we mere mortals can do, respect them for what they can do and what they will do in the future.
Ray
Exactly - there is no bad guy and good guy, it's just competitive people. You have to be that way to get to the top level.Quote:
Originally Posted by raybak
Well for sure it was clear from the very beginning that Paddon obviously couldnīt smell Neuville. It was starting from Paddon, Neuville always stayed calm about this.
It reminds me of big personal rivalry in Formula One, like Senna vs. Prost - or now Rosberg vs. Hamilton, who were even friends before, now hardly talk to each other at all. Canīt see this in WRC anywhere else except for Paddon and Neuville.
Yes Loeb and Ogier and sainz and macrae, were all great friends...Quote:
Originally Posted by WUff1
Amen. That’s way Paddon’s hardcore fans shouldn’t be permanently undermining Neuville. In order to praise our favorite driver there’s no need to criticize his competitors.Quote:
Originally Posted by raybak
Btw, Polo 17 WRC homologation is going to happen, or not? This guys says itll
http://www.revistascratch.com/wrc/no...oviembre-35208
Knowing VW, no. Hope is the last one to die, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
I bet Paddon doesn't sleep well at night nowadays given Neuville's recent form.
Given his contract, I bet he sleeps better than most... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by BigWorm
too late for Kris according to these guys: Ogier would be confirmed on Monday as MSport pilot for a season... Note in http://www.rallynoticias.com
https://twitter.com/rallynoticias/st...95092287819777
http://www.rallynoticias.com/nivel2...._noticia=11906
"Ogier sería confirmado el lunes como piloto de MSport por una temporada..."
Ogier will be confirmed in monday as M-Sport driver for one season
What is the reputation of this website? Reliable?
nice news,if they confirmed.
Ogier at citroen would make citroen and himself almost champion from 1st rally.If he go to Ford it will be better for the championship imho.
im also questioning it, anyone knows?Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
Dunno what to think of it, some part of me wants it but some not.
I only know that it's my wish to be true.
If true, it would be a bit sad to have him at M-Sport for only one season. I'd understand if he wouldn't want to take the risk of binning more than one year if the car is not good, but I'd like to see a 2 year contract, as a minimum.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira