Makinen, Jouhki to select drivers... seems the autism of the japanese still holds. lets see how fast they are going down with those choices they make.
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Makinen, Jouhki to select drivers... seems the autism of the japanese still holds. lets see how fast they are going down with those choices they make.
Seems selection of drivers already is made. Don´t impress me. However saying JML to join Toyota after being sacked by VW would make you so upset I dont dare shouting it out loud... :)
But its coasting ostberg he is under peforming now better toyotaQuote:
Originally Posted by AL14
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"""Nobody from TMG was available for comment when AUTOSPORT contacted Cologne, but sources within TMG say the company will continue with its development programme of its own Yaris WRC"""
What is the plan; to continue along two axis, is TMG gone, or will Makinen take a position at TMG?
…owns mäkinen still this workshop near jyväskylä? for me it looks quite big for just preparing group n/r4 subaru’s.
but I don’t think they have the same infrastructure like TMG at cologne?!
Underperforming? I don't think so. He wasn't better than now before he joined Citroen.Quote:
Originally Posted by andyone
But it doesn't count, Ostberg didn't need to change his style, Latvala does.
BTW with Citroen or with Toyota Latvala has barely no more chances to win a championship, and I say "barely" just because I'm a dreamer and a bit naive.
There is no way in hell that Toyota would base itself in Finland. If Makinen takes a leading role it'll be from Cologne. And Jouhki as the puppet master... Well... I hope this is an old April fools joke that came out too late.
I find it all bizarre. Is Akio Toyoda trying to hurry the project up? But are Toyota in Japan/ Cologne are taking their time? We know they are careful with money, after the F1 disaster. If you have a facility like Cologne, which can manage WRC, WEC programmes at the same time, then you'd surely use it.
Certainly there will not be a Yaris from TMG and another car from Tommi Makinen Racing. Gazoo was founded as one of the Toyota motorsport subsidiaries (like TRD, TOM'S or TMG) but now is the head of the Toyota Group motorsport activities. http://ms.toyota.co.jp/jp/Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
The WEC prototypes are entered by Toyota Gazoo Racing even if they're entirely developed in Germany by TMG, with the operative partnership of Oreca.
Probably TMR will be the operative partner for TMG in WRC (with Toyota money he can easily mount an operation outside Finland) or simply he has been invited to coordinate the TMG WRC project and another external structure will run the cars for them (Oreca is already rallying TMG drivers in WRC2 and WRC3).
Soon we'll found out. IMO it's great to see a multiple world rally champion in Toyota's ranks!
Not sure that article is 100% accurate. Maybe heard (or someone misinterpreted) a bad rumour?
I'm sure Makinen Racing have a decent set-up but whatever they've got is basically a garden shed compared to TMG's facilities in Cologne - a place where current F1 teams go to get work done. No shortage of room in that factory either by the sounds of it.
Tommi at the helm of the team would be superb however.
Tommi is the boss, in every sense of the word.
Quote:
TOMMI MÄKINEN LEADS TOYOTA GAZOO RACING’S WRC RETURN IN 2017
Toyota GAZOO Racing has determined its team structure leading up to Toyota’s return to the FIA World Rally Championship (WRC) in 2017.
Toyota President Akio Toyoda will serve as team chairman while Tommi Mäkinen*, a celebrated WRC veteran, will be offering his expertise as team principal. With comprehensive oversight from Mäkinen, who holds four drivers’ titles over his 18-year WRC career, the team will strengthen its vehicle development capabilities and work toward 2017.
Team name
Toyota GAZOO Racing
Vehicle
Yaris WRC (length: 3910 mm; width: 1820 mm)
Team chairman
Akio Toyoda
Team principal
Tommi Mäkinen
Full article: http://www.toyota-motorsport.com/en/...return-in-2017
I just wondering... to be a holder of four drivers’ titles over an 18-year WRC career automatically makes you a competent Team Principal?
I m not saying he is not, time will show, but what is the reasoning behind his appointment?
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/119880 the official announcement from autosport regarding toyota & makkinen
I think it's a very unclear situation, I'm following WEC (f.i. Le Mans) quite intensively there is the same situation where Gazoo Racing is official entrant , and the running of the cars as well as R&D is done by TMG. Gazoo read Toyota is paying TMG to run the whole project. When Tommi Makinen is heading the WRC development now it doesn't mean it will be Tommie Makinen Racing who has got the deal to develop the Yaris. Don't forget there is a huge factory in Cologne available next to the Toyota LMP 1 workshop.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
I can understand the silence of TMG.
Citroen said they will remove one of its programs by 2017. WRC or WTCC
I'm kinda pissed cuz... y'know...
WTCC?!?! WFT is that?!
You can ask anyone (except WTCC's board) about WTCC and no one will have an answer for "what is that?"
RALLY is the most famous thing together with F1 and MotoGP.
I dont believe Citroen is even CONSIDERING WTCC, even with its dominance.
Meh
I don't know... i am in the UK and when Meeke (ie. Citroen) won their event this year it received less column inches in the newspapers than Michael Schumacher's son winning some cart race the same day.Quote:
Originally Posted by giu canbera
In the logical way of thinking they'll choose the sport where they have more success at the moment...
According to autosport Matton is well pissed off with Meeke and will decide soon about the line up for 2016, Loeb is an option although he's not convinced. Matton doesn't accept any excuses from Meeke after Sardinia and Poland.
which autosport?Quote:
Originally Posted by rallyfun
meanwhile in other news http://www.maxrally.com/2015/07/09/back-to-the-future, regulations for 2017 will be discussed tommorow in WMSC in Mexico
Why? He still beat Ostberg home in Poland.Quote:
Originally Posted by rallyfun
What is the aim of this? I thought the current cars are rather spectacular already.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
Maybe Ostberg is done already.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
If translate worked well, Hirvonen is going to participate at next Dakar. Rumors say that Loeb could be there too.
Some polish guy to confirm?
http://wrc.net.pl/dakarowy-kierunek-hirvonena/
According to this info (and they are saying that it's according to Autohebdo) Mikko's plan to prepare himself to Dakar is:
- end of July; Baja Spain
- October; Rally Marocco
Paper copy UKQuote:
Originally Posted by Eli
from http://en.best-of-rallylive.com/News/WRC-notes-Poland
"Krzysztof Holowoczyc, who came third on this year’s Dakar and 10th in WRC2 in Poland, has turned to rallycross and probably won’t take part in the 2016 Dakar. However, we hear that Mikko Hirvonen and Michel Périn will do the event in a Mini ALL4 Racing and that Sébastien Loeb is looking for a co-driver to join him in a Peugeot 2008 DKR…"
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/119916Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
in the plus section there was a article about Tänak, if somebody ins interested then you can download it here http://www.upload.ee/files/4832160/f..._6589.pdf.html
WMSC approved radical change of the rules.
http://www.fia.com/news/world-motor-...il-2015-mexico
Looks like they realized that saving cost in a level where manufacturers are directly involved has no sense and instead decided to put everything on the appearance/marketing side.Quote:
The principles of the technical and homologation regulations for the 2017-2019 WRC car were approved by the World Motor Sport Council. The intention behind the new regulations is to produce a car with a far more dynamic and distinct appearance that exhibits character and diversity. The highlights are:
Engine
- Powered increased to 380hp
- 36mm maximum diameter for the turbo restrictor
- Maximum 2.5b absolute turbo pressure
Body
- Free zone defined around the body shell of the production car to create a maximum WRC car width of 1875mm and greater overhang front and rear
- Greater freedom on the lateral parts of the front bumper, with potential for additional aero devices ahead of the front wheels. Openings may also be cut-out on the fender surface
- Bigger and more visible fixed rear wing
The overall weight of the car will be reduced by 25kg, there will be a return to an electronically-controlled centre differential and the overall homologated length of the car must be greater than or equal to 3.9 metres.
By the way I guess that with 36 mm restictor they shall be able to reach more than 380 Hp. It's 19% of air more. If current WRC cars have let's say 340 Hp (I don't know) it shall bring around 400 Hp.
Mock up of 2017 car..
http://cdn.images.autosport.com/edit...1436560493.jpg
The arches are too wide IMO. Would rather see bigger cars with current sized kind of extensions over that...
edit: but then it is only a mock up :)
I like the direction the new rules are taking...
We are at an era where everything is safer and we have a far better understanding of how everything works, now is the correct era to move things towards more power in rallying...
It is time to have a revival of the group B way of thinking simply because it will be safer now, and send those useless F1 sport made of ladyboys and overweight hamburger fans back to the abyss of motorsport where they belong.
The five biggest car manufacturers in the world are VW, Toyota, GM, Ford and Hyundai. Except GM all are now involved in the WRC. That is definitely a good sign for the future.
It will be exactly 380.......Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
And how will it be controlled?
The aero changes are exactly the wrong way to go. They should reduce wings and aero kits, and limit suspension travel. More power is ok, but why do the want more racing style, rather than sideways action?
Hopefully they'll make them a bit louder too while they're at it.
The Yaris will be wider then its length :-) :-) :-)
New rules are good chance for teams to catch up with VW...
Or for VW to continue out spending everyone and develop the aero and electric diffs even more.