How will it work when Hyundai are trying to develop their new car for 2015? Still limited to 42 days as they are a manufacturer team, or does this not apply because it will be a new homologation?Quote:
Originally Posted by rage82
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How will it work when Hyundai are trying to develop their new car for 2015? Still limited to 42 days as they are a manufacturer team, or does this not apply because it will be a new homologation?Quote:
Originally Posted by rage82
you can name one test track for manu team. testing on that track is unlimited.
For that reason they are said to buy some former military grounds...
But still, the days are not interchangeable, so Ogier or JML can't use Mikkelsen's days.Quote:
Originally Posted by rage82
Small safety-related observation from Hyundai photos: they are using the "old" (but maybe better?) design of roof rollcage bars.
Something closer to home than Bela pod Bezdezem I presume?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Really? They bought the whole North Korea? ;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
How did You come to B?lá? I have never heard about Hyundai being there.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
Nor me, but it is a former military ground right? And quite a good track. More similar to a proper rally stage than a circuit or airfield.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
But I presume you are saying they bought some former military ground in Germany?
Yes, I meant in Germany.
You are right that B?lá used to be military area (of Red army) but it also used to be better rally track before they put new asphalt few years back.
Dani testing today
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiA74d-G ... e=youtu.be
Skoda don't seem to use it anymore?.. despite being close to home.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Doesn't look so good on dry asphalt, but only stage times will tell the truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by makinen_fan
Would agree, WRC2/R5 speed at best but could be deceiving...Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
Maybe the pieve behind steering wheel was downgraded :colour:
Neuville looked much faster. Dani said on twitter yestarday that he felt the car was new, but that they have found some things interesting for today´s session, we will see.
Škoda uses it for media events (carrying journalists around), rarely for testing.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
More of Sordo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWlb9PxvzBA
And an official Huyndai testing video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcFZ57W1YqA
Latvala testing for Sweden in Kall
Footage by Sandell.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPAkJCFtq3A
Testing isn't about raw speed and setting quick times. They're nice, but it's easy to get fixated on them and lose sight of the big picture. Testing is about putting the car through its paces, getting a feel for the way the car behaves when settings are changed, and dialling it in to the individual driver's preference. The team will have a testing programme that they will follow closely, and which they are unlikely to publish. So for all we know, that footage of Sordo was taken right when the team was testing how the car would handle on dry tarmac with an extreme snow setup. That might sound silly, but it makes sense - what happens if the first stage of the day has been inundated with snow, but the second stage escaped the worst of it to be totally dry and the teams have no opportunity to change the setup?Quote:
Originally Posted by noel157
If I were running the team, I would certainly want to know how the car handles and what kind of pace it can manage in a situation like that.
Sorry but have You ever attend some test or have You seen some testing videos? Except first taxi and warming runs the driving in tests is always looking faster than in rallies. Always! It's because when You drive the same road 50x You are naturally taking it muuuuch faster than when You drive it first time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Prisoner Monkeys
Have You watched the video? The car in the video is hard as brick. Snow setup is high and soft. Nothing like that is in the video. I would say that the car appears harder set than Polo, Fiesta or even DS3.Quote:
Originally Posted by Prisoner Monkeys
More of Neuville
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCyb4zzvV3E
I thought my post made it pretty clear that the situation I described was purely hypothetical. The point I was trying to make was that Sordo's lack of speed could have more to do with Hyundai's test programme than any systemic issue with the car.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Sordo on wet, pushing it hard!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTgVMkG1XNU
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
wow... :bounce:
to me the car is looking better and better. i guess the testing, driver inputs and adjustments are really starting to show now
looks faster but still moves too much.
Great photos :smokin:
i have some more,but i want 2 beers.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
No chance :DQuote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
EDIT: But if on Monte the weather is like that, you have 1 beer :D
With those white conditions during the RMC, power will not play a major role, but on tarmac the Hyundai seems to be a bit too much understeering...Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
Hope though they have a similar engine like the other teams (powerwise)
so no beers no photos,only a video.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZfmbjIRzxU#t=151
I think they're good enough for a start. Monte is specific Rally, so is Sweden and Mexico, with proper tyre choice on Monte, there can be surprises. Latest Neuville videos look decent in speed, underteering is a matter of setup, if they can make it right, the championship will be interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
Yeah, for sure. I have hopes too. And no doubts as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv