another school shooting in U.S. of A. :(

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Originally Posted by keysersoze

Sure, pull the quote out of its context. Nice try.

"The bottom line" (presumably where you read my tone) was mocking ioan, who used the exact phrase in the post I replied to.

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And you think that was great and unique, huh?!
Not sure why it starts to look that all the pro gun ownership people posting around here a re a bit infantile?

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Originally Posted by ioan

You obviously do not know what fascist means.

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Quite. I have been called both a Communist and a fascist by anthonyvop, which suggests a degree of confusion.

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Originally Posted by ioan

And you think that was great and unique, huh?!
Not sure why it starts to look that all the pro gun ownership people posting around here a re a bit infantile?

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Not all, as I said above. Let's be fair — some are much more palatable and educated than others.

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Originally Posted by anthonyvop

Any Liberal, Euro-Weenie types who read this will no doubt scream “Eeeeek! Facts!” and run. So tell us again why we need more gun control regulations? Oh right, it’s touchy-feely time and we feel we need to outlaw all those nasty guns regardless of reality.

http://www.americanthinker.com/artic...Murder%202.bmp

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Hey, look, the US is doing better then a bunch of 3rd world countries like for example Zimbabwe and Sudan! :s
And worse then Turkmenistan, Sri Lanka, Fiji! Good reason to use it as a pro-gun argument.

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

I believe this to be skirting around the edges of the problem.

As regards mental illness, in making comments about the state of mind of a couple of people in this thread I have done so not out of a desire to seem cheap or insulting, but because to me it genuinely proves a point about some of the most vehement gun enthusiasts.

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The best part is that the pro-gun people are also the people who mostly oppose Obama's push for a free access to medical services in the USA.
Whichever way you try they will be against it.

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

Not all, as I said above. Let's be fair — some are much more palatable and educated than others.

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My bad, some are better than avop.

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Originally Posted by ioan

The best part is that the pro-gun people are also the people who mostly oppose Obama's push for a free access to medical services in the USA.
Whichever way you try they will be against it.

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Let me explain it to you.

Being able to protect yourself is a right.

Free stuff isn't.

Simple huh?

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Originally Posted by anthonyvop

Let me explain it to you.

Being able to protect yourself is a right.

Free stuff isn't.

Simple huh?

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Your explanation is certainly simplistic. Not quite the same thing, I know. Your definition of what constitutes a right is not, I have to tell you, gospel.

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Originally Posted by anthonyvop

Let me explain it to you.

Being able to protect yourself is a right.

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In the US, it is not.

Link please :D

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

I believe this to be skirting around the edges of the problem.

As regards mental illness, in making comments about the state of mind of a couple of people in this thread I have done so not out of a desire to seem cheap or insulting, but because to me it genuinely proves a point about some of the most vehement gun enthusiasts.

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There is nothing wrong with being a gun enthusiast, vehement or otherwise. It's what you DO with the gun that counts. Using it to hunt, target shoot, for personal protection, or having one just because the law says you can harms no one. It's those who use a gun to steal, maim or kill without any provocation that is the issue. The gun is only the instrument of choice which the criminal uses in their crime. I do not believe that taking guns from millions of law abiding owners, who have committed no crime, in order to address a couple of dozen mentally deranged individuals is a reasonable solution. So I say again, what about addressing what causes those very few people to commit such crimes?