Max Mosley opens a can of worms.

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Originally Posted by Tazio

The wider implications are

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.....showing Max in not a very good light....

Go read this then.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... sions.html

:eek:

You'll have to cut'n'paste that link - sorry.

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Originally Posted by tamburello

Whilst you haven't specifically stated that Mosley should not have his day in court...

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Max should have his day in court but in my view (as I have said before) he should be there as a private citizen, not FIA President.

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Originally Posted by tamburello

...you do constantly refer to the 'wider implications' of his court action and seem to place more emphasis upon this aspect of the saga than on Mosley's indisputable right to try to clear his name.

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I refer to the wider implications of this whole situation (not just the court case) simply because they impact on motorsport, and F1 in particular, and this is the F1 forum for F1-related discussion.

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

Eerrrrrmmmmm. Perhaps you should read what has been happening in the court case, you will read that Max has admitted he had successfully kept knowledge of his 'antics' from 'her indoors' and the 'ankle biters'.

We also know from other Maxisms that he said 'the missus was not best pleased'.

I know Max is still married. Can't think what it is about the multi millionaire that she sees in him though! ;)

He has denied only the Nazi connotations, but the evidence suggests otherwise. Woman 'D' said that the PhD student who blurted out about the Aryan race, did so (and this is the best bit) on the spur of the moment, not knowing its meaning! :rotflmao:

I have assumed very little Baggy, chosing to use quotes from the case in court.

HTH

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To correct my mistake - Woman D is the PhD student.

Bag o' sh!te! :laugh:

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Originally Posted by Knock-on

Sorry Baggy but must object to the "sting" part.

A sting, in my opinion, relates to someone setting up a situation.

As far as I'm aware, Max instigated this little party entirely of his own volition and paid Ladies for indulging in sexual services.

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Sorry , Knocky , but it was MI5 that used the word first .
They'd know what it means , don't you think ?

The sting refers to the plan to get pictures of the affair .

As has been implied in the excerpts of quotes from the girls , it was perhaps a regular thing , not a one-off .
Getting pictures in the news was a set-up .

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

.....showing Max in not a very good light....

Go read this then.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... sions.html

:eek:

You'll have to cut'n'paste that link - sorry.

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Not sure where your going with that old bean
Just becaure Max's hobby isn't R.C. boat racing
doesn't justify NoW's activity here.
And it wouldn't enhance Max's ability to do his job.

I await the outcome with quiet optimism!
I believe that Great Britain is not a Facist State.
Yet!

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

To correct my mistake - Woman D is the PhD student.

Bag o' sh!te! :laugh:

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Should I report this , or do you wish to apologise ?

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

Sorry , Knocky , but it was MI5 that used the word first .
They'd know what it means , don't you think ?

The sting refers to the plan to get pictures of the affair .

As has been implied in the excerpts of quotes from the girls , it was perhaps a regular thing , not a one-off .
Getting pictures in the news was a set-up .

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Well, I can't be responsible for MI5 :D

I think the whole debarcle is quite amusing really.

The crux of the matter is that Max has been caught with his pants down engaging in conduct that many people find quite depraved. Don't know that I subscribe to that view as I would like nothing more than to give Max a sound thrashing but I suggest that a lot of people find his behavour quite weird.

However, as long as he hurts nobody, commit a criminal act and keeps it behind closed doors, it doesn't concern me. Cheating on his wife and engaging prostitutes for S&M sessions is a personal morality issue that Max can accept. But again, it's his and his familys personal business. I would go as far as to argue that dressing up as some sort of Nazi is neither here nor there. Again, it was behind closed doors and up to him to reason with his concience.

Was it a invasion of privacy for the NotW to run this story? I would suggest it was but that's what Newspapers do. They don't sell much copy by running a Headline "Max Molesy happily married and nothing to report"!

Thing is, it's not behind closed doors now. If I was Max, I would have let it blow over but he's obviously not so we get to see the whole issue drawn out through the courts.

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Originally Posted by Knock-on

Well, I can't be responsible for MI5 :D

I think the whole debarcle is quite amusing really.

The crux of the matter is that Max has been caught with his pants down engaging in conduct that many people find quite depraved. Don't know that I subscribe to that view as I would like nothing more than to give Max a sound thrashing but I suggest that a lot of people find his behavour quite weird.

However, as long as he hurts nobody, commit a criminal act and keeps it behind closed doors, it doesn't concern me. Cheating on his wife and engaging prostitutes for S&M sessions is a personal morality issue that Max can accept. But again, it's his and his familys personal business. I would go as far as to argue that dressing up as some sort of Nazi is neither here nor there. Again, it was behind closed doors and up to him to reason with his concience.

Was it a invasion of privacy for the NotW to run this story? I would suggest it was but that's what Newspapers do. They don't sell much copy by running a Headline "Max Molesy happily married and nothing to report"!

Thing is, it's not behind closed doors now. If I was Max, I would have let it blow over but he's obviously not so we get to see the whole issue drawn out through the courts.

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I hear you , knock .
It's 45 of 48 years married , doing things behind the wife's back .

It's more damage than anyone on the board here can imagine .

The NOTW saw to it that it was not behind closed doors .
The suit is all he could do .

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Originally Posted by Knock-on

Well, I can't be responsible for MI5 :D

I think the whole debarcle is quite amusing really.

The crux of the matter is that Max has been caught with his pants down engaging in conduct that many people find quite depraved. Don't know that I subscribe to that view as I would like nothing more than to give Max a sound thrashing but I suggest that a lot of people find his behavour quite weird.

However, as long as he hurts nobody, commit a criminal act and keeps it behind closed doors, it doesn't concern me. Cheating on his wife and engaging prostitutes for S&M sessions is a personal morality issue that Max can accept. But again, it's his and his familys personal business. I would go as far as to argue that dressing up as some sort of Nazi is neither here nor there. Again, it was behind closed doors and up to him to reason with his concience.

Was it a invasion of privacy for the NotW to run this story? I would suggest it was but that's what Newspapers do. They don't sell much copy by running a Headline "Max Molesy happily married and nothing to report"!

Thing is, it's not behind closed doors now. If I was Max, I would have let it blow over but he's obviously not so we get to see the whole issue drawn out through the courts.

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Great post Knock' I agree with it, with one small exception.
I think a precedent needs to be set as to how far these "Newspapers" can go.
It's an issue all race fans would like to see go away. Max has a chance to contribute to setting the boundry.
He has nothing more to lose, and citizens private lives have much to gain!

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

Should I report this , or do you wish to apologise ?

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Apologise to who for what? For quoting a catchphrase of Paul Calf (Steve Coogan) when he describes students?