Of course it's not going to happen, but it would be a great story if they came back with FX on the top and dominated again!Quote:
Originally Posted by deephouse
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Of course it's not going to happen, but it would be a great story if they came back with FX on the top and dominated again!Quote:
Originally Posted by deephouse
Before you know it, DirtFish headlines: “With Peugeot dwindling in WEC, what are the chances they’ll be back in the WRC some 22 years after “the whale”? LolQuote:
Originally Posted by TWRC
Famin did express that at that time when he was in charge they weren't interested in rallying. I assume he wasn't souch into sport. Although they made 208 R5 and that thing still have one of the greatest sounds out of exaust for me personally.
That's why I believe that team boss or whole motorsport department should be someone with rallying history or passion.
I said some time ago that Cyril isn't with heart in this sport. Sorry but it's true. I know he doesn't have the last word, but pretty much does have influence since above them, people are really listening at key people down there. And as I predicted, that Hyundai would leave soon, this sceanario will probably come true. Sure he could convince them to stay, but I have a feeling it's more vice versa than that we are hoping for. Sadly.
And yes, Peugeot does have ultimatum in WEC. If wins will not come they will consider of leaving. Still think that they did best in rallying and is more appealing.
And that 206 was a beautiful car, the 207 that followed may not have looked as pretty but the exhaust note was on point, as was the 208 R5’s like you said…In a world where almost nobody makes a 3 door supermini and most have reverted to a 5 door layout, would it be too much to ask from Peugeot to bring in their 208 into the mix and create a version for the 2027 rules & regulations?Quote:
Originally Posted by deephouse
Whats your source on this one? Sportscar journalists that are allmost always in the know specifically said that the clickbait shit "Peugeot will leave said Linda Jackson" is not what was actually said in that meeting.Quote:
Originally Posted by deephouse
I think it would be awesome. The car does look badass even without all those aero packages.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
saw some people on fb talking about how os hyundai going from wrc to wec because "nobody watches wec". someone suggested "go check number of views on the official highlights from both series". man, wrc has around 90k per day, wec have up to 300k and even +400k on a full race at spa. i also thought wec was smaller. what a shock. last two years they also have decent numbers tbh.
Greece road book
https://youtu.be/wPw_ZV7Pyi0?si=Edtnim2HRPziRFS1
Before I got rally.tv, I mostly check highlights on redbull.tv than on youtube. Not sure if it's that good comparision. Also WRC has twice as many rounds as WEC.Quote:
Originally Posted by saco0o
WRC youtube channel has more subscibers than WEC.
Looking at reddit, WRC is smaller than WEC, looking at instagram, WRC is bigger than WEC. It's quite hard to say.
At the end of day, WRC has potential to gain new fans and manus, similarly as WEC is doing that. If they will be able to realize that potential in next few years, is different question.
this is weird... "hyundai will rumored to be run by american team chip ganassi using a oreca chassis in wec"
like, its just hyundai money and stickers? is that cheaper?
man im really thinking wrc should just go to spec cars and allowing manufacturers to change the "nose" of the car (headlights & front grill desing). the hybrid is already spec, the roll cage is basically spec (because they need to follow tight guidelines), the engines are already super tight on the construction.
just get someone to build a full simpler spec car and sell them to the teams and drivers, its going to be cheaper.
make it a crossoverISH thing since thats what the manufacturers want now. the puma is one of the coolest cars on the planet right now (tho the new car dont need all that exagerated [AWESOME] look with all the aerokit).
hmmm but if wrc had only 8 round like wec, we would still get the same 80k average vs their 300k anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Backa
or reverse: if wec had 14 round (like wrc), they'd probably get the same 300k average in all of them
like F1 or MotoGP have the same average of views for all of their 24 race season, nascar for their 36 races, or sprintcar have for their +80 race per season
yeah, social media numbers are weird, i honestly dont know how to work with that. motoGP was bigger than F1 up until 2022 or so, if you added twitter/fb/insta/youtube. i remember counting them all every year.
No, as I said it will be an Oreca tub with a Hyundai engine (roadcar based or prototype) with a spec mgu and Hyundai/Oreca designed bodywork (with some Genesis styling cues) and suspension.Quote:
Originally Posted by saco0o
All of them are currently run by third parties, only Toyota and Peugeot with their Hypercars are run inhouse factory teams (maybe Ferrari kind of as well with AF Corse).
Chile road book
https://youtu.be/AVYI5f3UA1s?si=NrQ16pJg0uUxqy1T
Discontinued in Europe but the Hyundai i20N lives on in Australia:
https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-new...shened-styling
Strange when surely Europe was it's best market.
Reducing their ranges, offer only EV and SUVs, ''forcing'' that those people will buy 3x more expensier cars. I will laugh if all they do will lose money and scratch their bright heads why.
So Hayden Paddon won ERC for the second year. In the second half of this season he and his team finally got the Hyundai working, a feat which apparently eluded the WRT, and looked dominant. And now he's going back to lower-level rallying, or so I've read.
This seems like a missed opportunity for Hyundai WRT, surely they could put him and his support crew into WRC2 next year.
Meeke Portuguese champion with Hyundai
Paddon ERC champion with Hyundai
Neuville WRC champion with Hyundai
Not bad, not bad
Kris Meeke also clinch Portuguese title with that car. They should put both drivers in WRC2 championship two years ago.. Right now the lack of tarmac rallies in WRC isn't enough to give the car the opportunity to fight for the title, since they are aiming on that ground only. Shame, I really hope they could really try with both of them, because it seems they are the only ones who are capable of drive that car and fight properly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Morte66
At best, there are still 1600km's to go for that..Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
It would be safer to assume that:Hyundai driver* WRC champion with Hyundai :D
it would be 8th world miracle if Neuville manages to loose it
Technical problems can still ruin it for Neuville, even if he makes no mistakes.
And if Neuville has 2 disaster rallies for whatever reason, Ogier is back in it, he's 12 points behind Tanak and faster on asphalt. No big chance, but it's there.
You can't be seriously comparing Meeke beating 4th level drivers in Portugal with Paddon beating 2nd level drivers in ERC?
Paddons achievement is on another level than Meeke, yet the WRC2 competition is a level above again.
;)Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Perhaps it's the drivers more than which car they're in that's leading to the (i20) Championship victories ? There really isnt very much between the Rally2 cars and the driver usually makes the biggest difference.
I'm sure that's part of it. But there are a couple of things that strike me...Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
In an interview during rally Silesia, Paddon specifically talked about how they'd had trouble with the car for the last couple of years until about halfway through this season when they finally got it sorted. He wouldn't say what they changed specifically, just that they finally got all the bits to work together. He later talked about "a season of two halves" and things along those lines.
Also, as somebody pointed out during ERC Ceredigion, he won every proper stage on Saturday except SS3 which he lost to... ...another Hyundai i20 N. The other i20 was driven by James Williams, his teammate.
Yes he and his team definitely found something before Ceredigion. They did some testing in Spain and there was even a rumour of a big engine upgrade.
But even before that he was still pretty competitive in the i20... and Williams didnt have the changes on his car, but was still very fast (on his home stage).
There is clearly pace in the car, especially on tarmac, but just on one surface isnt good enough...
Common factor being tarmac rallies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Morte66
And Hyundai themselves have decide to abandon any real development on the car except for making it a tarmac weapon.....
So....Next years' numbers on the cars: #1, #8 & #16 ;)
Or 1,11,16 :D Or 11, 8, 16 If Neuville wants to keep 11Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
Or 1, 11 and 16
Ott Kept his no. last time ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewgekcnkRc4 Raw Rally by Hynudai Motorsport
Seeing these cars live is an absolute joy, this was my fourth live rally (with these cars)and am now trying to get flights for Japan .
Incar does them no justice
Totaly agree. I attend last two years on Croatian rally, because it's the closest for me, like a hour drive. First, because I had a feeling they will lost aplace in WRC and that come true (hope than they will be back), and second because I have a feeling for a while they will somehow go EV route (not spectacural at all) or significantly downgrade car performance or in worst case the series will die. Haha seems like I always think that better to get at least some live action before it will be changed forever.Quote:
Originally Posted by lancia037
I think it was officially confirmed Croatia will be back in WRC in 2026 and 2027. For 2025, they will be in ERC.Quote:
Originally Posted by deephouse
CER as location is okayish but nothing great. I would prefer Vineyard/Panzerplatte location rotating calendar spot with Barum than have CER.
Yes I know, but why always they sacrifice tarmac rallies to bring new ones in. I think that CER rally is a good challenge, but concept as it is isn't working well. They should maybe make an agreement between countries and host one year, next year the other would take a place. Somewhat Australia/NZ was having that idea few years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Backa
Czech Republic wants to host a full event, we have the roads for this to happen and I think that they are even better than roads in Germany (ofcourse not the roads around Mossel, they would've been the best for comeback tho)..Quote:
Originally Posted by deephouse
It never gets boring. CER was my fourth event this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by lancia037
Don't go to Japan, heard that spectators are not allowed to the forest stages in Japan. https://ticket.pia.jp/piasp/inbound/...japan24eng.jspQuote:
Originally Posted by lancia037
How is all this related to Hyundai?