[WRC] News & rumours (part II)

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Originally Posted by Juha_Koo

LOL x 1000, I haven't laughed this hard in months! :D

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He has a point though, but there's one condition.
When a driver goes "by ears" (virtually by his co-driver's reading notes), he needs to completely trust him, and thus the co-driver's contribution is very high (at least 50% of total driver-co-driver crew work). You know the saying: when the driver makes a mistake, the crew loses seconds, when the co-driver makes a mistake, the crew loses minutes and hours.
BUT When a driver knows that the co-driver is bad / the intercom is broken / smth happened, he needs to drive "by eyes", and in that case the difference is, as NOT said, 10-20%, sometimes even less. A good example of that - Gronholm's stage victories in Finland after back problems for Timo.

many people cry because they suffer from the co-driver cry-baby syndrome...for example mr Nicky Grist and others...

the fact is a good co-driver is far easier to find than a good driver, and a good driver can progress even with a bad co-driver not the other way around.

you can cry or laugh all you want but facts are facts...sorry.

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Originally Posted by N.O.T

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the fact is a good co-driver is far easier to find than a good driver, and a good driver can progress even with a bad co-driver not the other way around.

you can cry or laugh all you want but facts are facts...sorry.

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Give us some examples,please.....

there are various examples of drivers changing co-drivers and the speed remains the same....Kannkunen,makinen,galli,sainz and numerous more...ects

In other words the co-driver must be really bad to show any impact on the drivers speed....no driver can win a rally without a co-driver but as i said its very very easy to find a good co-driver.

duval and novikov are also good examples since changing of co-drivers didn't change much...so its the driver that makes the difference not the co-driver.

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Originally Posted by N.O.T

duval and novikov are also good examples since changing of co-drivers didn't change much...so its the driver that makes the difference not the co-driver.

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In case of Novikov it's a bit different. He's performed together with best Russian co-drivers, one of the best Asia-Pacific co-drivers and two of the best co-drivers in the world, but every time he's made a mistake he blamed his co-driver!! So where's he now? Ah, yeah, still there, down the results' table...))

He paid so much for thin results.

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Originally Posted by White Sauron

In case of Novikov it's a bit different. He's performed together with best Russian co-drivers, one of the best Asia-Pacific co-drivers and two of the best co-drivers in the world, but every time he's made a mistake he blamed his co-driver!! So where's he now? Ah, yeah, still there, down the results' table...))

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Even with a good or bad co driver Novikov has same pace/exits.That told you NOT

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Originally Posted by N.O.T

LOL....

the co-driver is about the 10-20% of the speed....nothing more.

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Lol, wrong again....

To set competitive stage times(on gravel) the drivers set their cars up for corners that they havent even seen yet....How much confidence would a driver have to do this with no co-driver? Not a lot.
On tarmac, they need to know distances(amongst others) etc to find optimal braking points, turning in points, how long the corner is so they know when they can exit at full speed...Once again, how much would a driver commit to a corner that he cant see without a co-driver reading notes?
Circuit racing drivers dont need this, they practice the track so many times they know where all of the correct braking points are, exit speeds etc etc. Unfortunately, in rallying you do not get that privilage.

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Originally Posted by White Sauron

he needs to drive "by eyes", and in that case the difference is, as NOT said, 10-20%, sometimes even less. A good example of that - Gronholm's stage victories in Finland after back problems for Timo.

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Totally dependable from the rally and conditions. In Jordan, night stages, foggy conditions, etc. time losses would be bigger than 10-20%.

Marcus' fastest time in Vellipohja was because of rigorous video playback of the stage, it was the only new stage in NORF 2005 and Marcus and Timo had watched it from the video dozens of times. Also the codriver's role outside stages shouldn't be forgotten. Maybe you can tell me N.O.T why there's a problematic shortage of codrivers in Finland if the reality is how you say it is... Good codriver is essential for good results, it isn't coincedence that the same guys seem to have many jobs (=drivers).