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The irrational individuals in question do exist, I have exchanged messages with them on forums such as this.
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Irrational as compared to whom or what?
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[quote="Wraith"]
The irrational individuals in question do exist, I have exchanged messages with them on forums such as this.
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Irrational as compared to whom or what?
"***!!!!!@#!#!!!!! If the price of American open-wheel continuing is for it to exist under HIS leadership, then I'd rather see everything parked, no more open-wheel in America, anywhere AT ALL, and then the Master Control Tower blown to smitherines, just to show my hate of IMS!! WHAT?!!? It's called the Bombardy-something PAGODA now?! ***!!!!#!@!!!!"Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Riebe
Irrational individual.
Elsewhere:
"The only race that matters AT ALL is the Indianapolis 500! REAL racing once had men man-handling cast-iron chariots around on dirt circles, and tires driving up over each other in mad dash to win! Now'days, the damned Europeons got these upside-down airplane contraptions everywhere, and I HATE't!! If they ain't dirt trackin' or runnin' on da bricks, they ain't worth ****!!"
Irrational individual.
...at least, to those of us who love Indianapolis, dirt track racing, street racing, road racing, karting, NHRA drag racing, and anything else with machines specifically designed to go as fast as the engineers can get them to go.
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Originally Posted by heelntoe
Time will tell as far as the settlement in this case if there is one, but as usual, you do not accept the completely incorrect angle to guilt...it is not a grey area! As to what it has to do with the CCWS series, only time will tell...personally, I think KK has already decided to close up shop and NHL's departure will finalize that closing. As far as IMG. CCWS is likely to lose that race by all that is known today and again, we'll wait and see. Again, I'm pretty comfortable with the 60 day timeframe I laid down.
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Originally Posted by sanguin
In your opinion.
CC can wait to see how the cash outlay works for the other series.That will be very telling. I don't think CC has anything to worry about. IMO
CC Cannot wait another year...it can't wait another 60 days without proving to its teams, sponsors and venues that it has the money to do so.
Originally Posted by sanguin
Here it is, 60 days from Oct. 4. It's on.
Remember this-
"We can only conclude that these rumors are being started by someone with malicious intent."
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/63049
Well here we are, 60 days later. Another prediction by an "insider" proved false.Quote:
Originally Posted by sanguin
:rolleyes:
Sanguin, as i posted some time back, I have no problem eating crow for incorrect predictions...mine is best with port wine reduction :) However, unless you're one of the amigos, any insider, in my case, a former insider dating back a few years, can be as wrong as anyone else. I must also state that I cannot, for the life of me, see why KK's continuing to finance CCWS with so many hurdles to clear. The recent sponsor mess with Steeback and Pay-By-Touch are indicative of these hurdles...both situations were not the fault of CCWS, but when you can't interest major sponsorship, you pretty much have to accept what you can get. Taking the series abroad for so many races will only make the sponsor component harder for both the series and the teams. Lastly, I still think PN's done and will announce his retirement...i'll again be happy to eat crow if I'm wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by sanguin
A good read-
http://www.canada.com/saskatoonstarp...e-bb89bd31f426
PN doesn't do any heavy lifting sponsoring a team. I don't think you could keep him away from the track if you tried. It's all pleasure for him.
I don't think anything CC is experiencing is as bad as a sponsor suing to get out of a series.
Maybe, just maybe, KK likes the challenge involved in CC.Quote:
Originally Posted by heelntoe
Pat, I don't know a single successful business man or turn around guy that would shy away from a challenge, do you? So goes the saying "if it was that easy, everyone would be doing it". However, KK, when he announced his 5 year plan, truly believed he'd achieve it in three. Today, it is no closer than it was in 2003 despite the total spend he has to date...in fact, most balanced business men in racing would say they are worse off as they don't have a direction that has reflected two years consistent of anything. There comes a point where even a man accepting a challenge sees that good money going down the hole is a losing proposition...clearly he wouldn't be the first to accept this in professional motorsports.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pat Wiatrowski
But let's turn this back to what the Doc wrote about in the beginning...in your opinion, What's Next for CCWS in actually securing sponsors and reaching a self sustaining business plan?
Odd, I don't recall the intricate details of the oft-mentioned 5 Year Plan ever being made public.
As a fan, no, I'm not satisfied with where the series is now. But when it comes to the business of Champ Car, I think it's becoming (increasingly) clear that no one here has any amount of reliable data on where the series stands financially. There tends to be more flighty speculation here (on both sides) than on the average penny stock message board.
I'm not convinced if a five-year plan existed, it didn't change several times.
That "changing" is common practice in business and is considered "good business"..Quote:
Originally Posted by indycool