Rallye WRC Monte Carlo 2019

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Originally Posted by dodge33cymru

Because some of those people have been spectating here for 30 years, know perfectly good places to stand

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Well at least this is a completely new stage.

There was sort of unwritten spectator rule few years back that you never go to the first stage of Monte because it won't run. This time it moved to the first morning stage...

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Originally Posted by Mintexmemory

There are certain events, Monte is one of them, where an arsey woman telling a bunch of testosterone fuelled guys having a macho cuture to do something is bound to make co-operation difficult. Maybe a new FIA Safety Co-ordinator is required?

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I don't agree with that; gender or 'machoism' have nothing to do with it.

Lack of context in stewarding on the other hand... they're limiting more and more places so no wonder people feel they have to move around - if they allowed people to stand in safe spots (e.g. raised banks and walls) instead of blanket applying a rule, there would be fewer issues IMO.

I really want to see pictures of a lot of fans standing in unsafe positions, what caused a stage cancellation. And I bet it's not too bad to cancel it.

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Originally Posted by Mirek

There was sort of unwritten spectator rule few years back that you never go to the first stage of Monte because it won't run. This time it moved to the first morning stage...

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Well eventually when enough people follow that rule, the first stage will be free enough to run. Maybe it became second stage, and now third instead ;)

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Originally Posted by Mintexmemory

There are clearly some members of this forum who have never stood on the side of a road or experienced Mouton's intransigence. In most locations 20m is either impossible or unnecessary. There is never any thought about trajectory or paths - just 'back 20 m'!

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I've stood on plenty of stage sides, and know some of the spectator zones and marshalls/safety crews can be a bit OTT.

However if I was in a massive crowd on a very fast high speed section and everyone was told to just move back a little or the stage is binned, what's the point in not moving? So you can massage your own ego/ claim you know better, just for the stage to get binned for everyone else watching in "safer" places or around the world. It's probably going to have a massive effect on the rally too, with the tyre choices made around needing studs for SS3.

It's pointless

Lets all just agree that Mouton is a bad person.

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Originally Posted by itix

Except they were asked to move 20 m back, not to relocate and all of us who have been to the Monte know full well that fans stand in the stupidest of places every bloody year and the fact that more people haven't been killed is a miracle.

Mouton and her team are all ex drivers who knows where the cars end up when they go off so when she tells you to move, you move.

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I've just gone wandering. Was stood on a perfectly safe bank, nowhere near a corner with a ditch and 5m between me and the road. Because of the bank, moving 10m further back means I couldn't see the road. Start again...

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Originally Posted by Tauri_J

Have you been at a rally? this pretty much happens in every rally.

People move back into safety when safety cars and zero cars are passing. Once they're gone the'll move closer again. Its always been like this.

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yep. And I know that "20m back or you died" not backed by anything, or "you don't permited to walk into that forest cuz I'll been instructed to not let anyone in".

1) Marshalls on site haven´t done their job.
2) Mouton didn´t do her job. Should have stayed at sight until they got further back. Instead she stopped at finish and yelled...