Should f1 run coupes?

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28th October 2011, 21:58
Daniel

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

No, on this occasion I don't. Time to cease the posturing.

So do you agree with him that I am suggesting that F1 stand still in terms of safety? Do you think it's quite clear that I want safety in F1 to go even further?
28th October 2011, 21:59
Daniel

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Originally Posted by henners88

You're no saint in your latest posts mate, having a dig at Knock-on, Wilko and myself and trying to stoke the fire.

You've confused a reference to knock on with an insult. Should I have said "there's a rugby loving person on this forum who seems to think that the revised helmets will now keep everything out of the cockpit, even catchfences :dozey: " :confused: I'm having a dig at what Knockie has said, not Knockie himself. Attack the post, not the poster and all of that :)
28th October 2011, 22:26
Mia 01

As a starter, respect rules.
29th October 2011, 02:31
airshifter

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Originally Posted by henners88

You're no saint in your latest posts mate, having a dig at Knock-on, Wilko and myself and trying to stoke the fire.

I can't agree with that Henners. Daniel has made sure to insult anyone and everyone that doesn't agree with his opinions by posting things such as:

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Jackie's words are so true and so well thought out. That people haven't taken a step back and said "Perhaps we need to think about things and evaluate the dangers that are inherent to motorsport and eliminate those which needn't be inherent" suggests one of two things

You simply aren't that bothered about drivers getting killed or seriously injured

or

You childishly don't want to side with Ioan and myself because we're not that popular on here.

So apparently we are all childish and/or not bothered by the death of a driver in Daniels view. And I find it no surprise that the "trolling" card is being played, as that is standard procedure now when Daniel plays the victim.

Had anyone else started this thread and acted in such a way, it would probably have been closed long ago. But instead we continue the trend of Daniel getting a free pass to insult others and degrade the discussion in the forum, insulting others at will yet crying when an oposing opinion exists.

I'm starting to think that the standards of fairness used by the stewards at the F1 races are far more logical and fair handed than the standards enforced on this forum. And that's really a shame because at most times in the past the forum was kept under control.
29th October 2011, 09:23
Daniel

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Originally Posted by airshifter

So apparently we are all childish and/or not bothered by the death of a driver in Daniels view. And I find it no surprise that the "trolling" card is being played, as that is standard procedure now when Daniel plays the victim.

Had anyone else started this thread and acted in such a way, it would probably have been closed long ago. But instead we continue the trend of Daniel getting a free pass to insult others and degrade the discussion in the forum, insulting others at will yet crying when an oposing opinion exists.

I'm starting to think that the standards of fairness used by the stewards at the F1 races are far more logical and fair handed than the standards enforced on this forum. And that's really a shame because at most times in the past the forum was kept under control.

Ben has refused to answer my question, maybe you will. Have I actually (as SGWilko said) suggested that safety in F1 should stand still? The fact that i've started this thread with the view that safety in F1 could be better and detailing the ways in which I think it could be made better should suggest otherwise. If someone is guilty of such a blatant lie as this would it not be fair to say that they're trolling for a reaction?
29th October 2011, 09:47
Daniel

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

F1 safety is not standing still, and no-one on here, except for yourself, is suggesting it should.

Henners, I'm not quite sure how else to interpret this.

I got accused in an Apple thread before Steve Jobs died, of not putting my point across well, of being a bit ambiguous.

Now SGWilko comes here and says something that is quite frankly preposterous and in no way trye and no one says "Jeez mate, you could have said that better" or anything to that effect.

If you don't want to admit what he's said then the only person you're cheating is yourself.

Disagree with me as to whether measures need to be taken to improve safety in F1 in the ways I've mentioned, reasonable people can do that. But don't simply allow someone to troll because you agree with his opinion on the subject.
29th October 2011, 12:15
ioan

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Originally Posted by Knock-on

F1 powerboats do have canopies but this is because of the danger of a boat nosediving into water at high speeds. It is like hitting concrete.

F1 cars don't have this problem as the concrete is concrete and cannot enter the survival cell unless the rollover bar breaks which is practically impossible.

Unless due to what some might call a strange occurrence the concrete (or for that matter suspension spring, or wheel or bird or stray dog hit the driver in the head, where it is not protected by anything but a helmet.
29th October 2011, 12:17
ioan

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Originally Posted by Knock-on

Because some people don't understand the sport. Some people get more excited over a new winglet or piece of technology rather than the sound and smell or a race track.

Get of the high horse.
Your knowledge of the sport and of the technology would make a frog look savant, yet the beer gives you lots of courage to trash those who use reasoned arguments to support safety improvements in a sport they appreciate for what it is.
29th October 2011, 12:20
ioan

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Disagree with me as to whether measures need to be taken to improve safety in F1 in the ways I've mentioned, reasonable people can do that. But don't simply allow someone to troll because you agree with his opinion on the subject.

Welcome to the wold of the forum gangs!
They might not be fair and smart but there are many of them who gang up to have a laugh behind you.
29th October 2011, 12:28
Dave B

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Originally Posted by ioan

Welcome to the wold of the forum gangs!
They might not be fair and smart but there are many of them who gang up to have a laugh behind you.

A paragraph which would suggest that you are well and truly against personal attacks. Well done. And yet...

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Originally Posted by ioan

Get of the high horse.
Your knowledge of the sport and of the technology would make a frog look savant, yet the beer gives you lots of courage to trash those who use reasoned arguments to support safety improvements in a sport they appreciate for what it is.

That sounds to me like a direct personal attack.

Which is it?

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