Wrc Rallye France-Alsace 2012

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Originally Posted by HaCo

Thanks for sharing darkstar. This accident seems to be caused by dirt on the road.

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More accurately, it was cause by the driver expecting that the road would ALWAYS be clean, and not leaving any reserve for the (pretty damn obvious) chance that they might be dirt and dirt at any second.

Got to go all Taoist on you:

The dirt just is. It is passive, it has no will, it can only be dirt. It has no will, it cannot ciase anything to "happen'. It just is.
Same for the asphalt, same for the tires, the car, not do anything but what is their nature to do.
Only the driver has will or choice.
He chose to ignore the obvious---that there CAN be dirt from ditches or embankment. Or a cow leaving a big present..

It's the same result but the driver wasn't just along for the ride---well untill he drove into the dirt anyway.

So Seb finally did it ! https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.n...01522091_n.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.n...95653494_n.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.n...14032567_n.jpg Other pics on facebook

i think it was not only due to dirt, as he was approaching i already thought: "wow, this is too quick." then of course the dirt did the rest...luckily no one was hurt, it was a quite heavy impact on high speed.

A driver should think himself: So, I'm going to cut this corner, is it possible someone before me did the same and throw some mud on the road? May be I should be more careful approaching it...

Congratulations to misters Loeb and Elena. Nothing surprising here, but ninth title just adds up to his fame. Nine is the biggest number, so is the crew. (And you can round it up to ten titles like mentioned.) Next year will be different and it'll also be interesting to see what kind of pace Loeb can keep if he enters some events on the second half of the season with longer gaps between the starts. Let me think... he'll reign :)

Also very happy about Latvala's result. Another and consecutive second place on a tarmac rally and this time far less time difference to Loeb than in Germany. After all was lost before mid-season break he has taken one win, two seconds and one third. Only if all seasons would be second halves only... Now what I really wish is a tarmac win from Latvala before Loeb retires. Loeb is the measurement.

It was again great from the French round that they had all the live coverage. Many of the normal rally thread posts changed from "Solberg fastest through 3rd split!" to "Where's the stream?!" For sure this approach is more 2012 than anything else we've seen elsewhere. Also, it seemed a great number of crowds out in the stages. That is _exactly_ where this sport is at its best!

He was way, way to fast in to that muddy corner!! It's not the stages fault, they must have missed the mud in their pacenotes??

I hope they got out of that wreck okey!

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Originally Posted by stefanvv

A driver should think himself: So, I'm going to cut this corner, is it possible someone before me did the same and throw some mud on the road? May be I should be more careful approaching it...

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There are thousands of corners in every rally. You simply can't have that approach in order to achieve anything.

Like darkstar said, from first-hand experience, he seemed to approach the corner too fast before knowing for sure what will happen. The results underlines it, he just simply approached too fast.

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Originally Posted by Hartusvuori

There are thousands of corners in every rally. You simply can't have that approach in order to achieve anything.

Like darkstar said, from first-hand experience, he seemed to approach the corner too fast before knowing for sure what will happen. The results underlines it, he just simply approached too fast.

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That is correct. And the reason for the fast approach I think is he believes the road will be clean. Probably just a miss in his pace notes, this things happen, fortunately nobody was hurt :)

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Originally Posted by Astro83

Much more exciting I think! I really really looking forward to 2013! The drivers who is still there is much tighter in stage times, 1 more factory team with good drivers, 1 more team will start compete under the season and Mini/Prodrive is coming back with the team.

It's going to be a REAL FIGHT and much FUN! :)

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Well said

2013 will be first WRC championship worth watching for years bring back the excitement.....

Bring it on 2013!!!