Ford Fiesta RS WRC

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Originally Posted by vkangas

I'd stick with Loriaux. :) Generally high speed performance is worse with lower peak power. Shorter car with the lower center of gravity on the other hand is more agile taking slow corners.

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Dont stick with him,he looses constantly last years.lol

I expect the cars to look and be much slower that the WRCs....no matter what Lauriax, Ogier, Loeb, the pope and everyone who is involved and getting payed by the industry tells to the media to attract attention....

Use your head....you work for an industry and there are some major changes going on... the more people are interested the more money you will get....now would you go around and say to people that the new product will be worse than the one offered for some time, or you would just try and cover things up...

some of you know some stuff...the majority do not know nothing, and just post for the sake of it....and then i am the bad boy and the nuisance in here.

I noticed that both engines of Citroën and Ford are short-stroke design (83x73,9 and 82x75,5 mm). That's exactly opposite to old two litre cars (except Subaru boxer).

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Originally Posted by Mirek

I noticed that both engines of Citroën and Ford are short-stroke design (83x73,9 and 82x75,5 mm). That's exactly opposite to old two litre cars (except Subaru boxer).

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cause they have to rev.

Yes, of course but these times even naturally aspirated S2000, which have higher rews, have often long-stroke design, especially Fabia with very long stroke (83x92,2).

different situations.
Normally aspirated engines is piece of cake to rev even to 9500 rpm whatever bore x stroke they have,even local garages can do it.
in wrc we have restrictor less displacement,and you have to help the engine from design to breath better in high revs.Smaller cc cant make enough gases for turbo in low revs.High revs helped by small stroke.

part of an interview that Malcolm Wilson gave http://www.therallysite.com/

We reckon we will need to build 15-16 World Rally Car versions for what we have planned. So maybe 20-25 of the 1.6-litre cars in all. Drivers have different sorts of programmes. If drivers want to run a World Rally Car for a single event, like PG Andersson in Sweden and Bernardo Sousa for Portugal, we can look at that. But we have set ourselves a limit of running ten cars on an individual WRC rally.

10 Ford drivers are doing more or less a full championship (Latvalla/Hirvonen/Al Qassimi/Ostberg/Kuipers/Block/Solberg/Villagra/Wilson and now Novikov?) which leaves hardly a Fiesta WRCar available for 1-off drivers. PG Anderson in Sweden, Bernardo Sousa in Portugal and Janne Touhino are confirmed. The rest will depend on the scedule of Novikov, Al Qassimi and Wilson. Also Rene Kuipers will not get many changes to drive the Fiesta WRCar. Even if he is the first privateer to buy the Fiesta WRCar, he still has the car to be run by M-Sport ?

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Originally Posted by rallyfan+

http://twitpic.com/3v86ay/full

I would be like a kid in a candy store there! :)

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Do some one mention the different rear wings on this picture. Some look like a s2000.

Watch this: http://yfrog.com/h8mwshhj

I don't understand why?

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Originally Posted by dimviii

different situations.
Normally aspirated engines is piece of cake to rev even to 9500 rpm whatever bore x stroke they have,even local garages can do it.
in wrc we have restrictor less displacement,and you have to help the engine from design to breath better in high revs.Smaller cc cant make enough gases for turbo in low revs.High revs helped by small stroke.

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I don't think that it's so easy with naturally aspirated units. Just watch the piston speed, In my opinion 26+ m/s (similar as F1 engines) isn't something what an average garage can cope with, especially with only steel allowed (if it should work for more than few kilometers).

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Originally Posted by Mirek

I don't think that it's so easy with naturally aspirated units. Just watch the piston speed, In my opinion 26+ m/s (similar as F1 engines) isn't something what an average garage can cope with, especially with only steel allowed (if it should work for more than few kilometers).

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I completely agree with Mirek, the revolving masses will be very high for a normally stroked car with oem materials, in F1 the stroke was somewhere around 30mm for the V10 engines which you understand when they reved up to 20000rpm...