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the first PUMA RX Supercar is being built!
https://www.instagram.com/p/DBboG4iAuuu/?img_index=1
Interesting to see it being suggested that the proposed UK round could potentially be held as part of the Coventry Motofest rather than going to Lydden Hill.
it is! ...in a street track.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sal yet again
I don't see issue with that, X Games were run at a street track many times and they were nice
Indeed...
"Buoyed by the tremendous success of World RX’s inaugural downtown event in Hong Kong last November, Rallycross Promoter is working hard to bring the spectacular dual-surface discipline to more city-centres, to introduce its irresistible no-holds-barred blend of fast-paced entertainment and doorhandle-to-doorhandle duels to swathes of new audiences."
tremendous success... but they didnt returned in '24 because the chinese promoter didnt paid the '23 fee because they only lost money to run that race.
redbull media house's PR bullshit goes beyond my comprehention (typo?)
So the Season ended with JK confirmed as Champion (again) and his teammate OCV winning his first event.
Although Hansen was 2nd in the Championship he was distant and the ICE cars were pretty dominant. This was shown especially in the wet and muddy conditions in Turkiye on Sunday when Rytkonen smashed them to win in his 208 ! Even POD was super fast in the heats but unlucky in the SFs.
Rytkonen was in an i20 (one of the ex-GRX i20's). Very, very, fast driver, would have been French Champion this year if he hadn't had such a shaky start to his season. Shame Patrick didn't have a better weekend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Was there any doubt? No doubt the 601 Polo is a quick car, but even if it wasn't I can't see any of the current crop of drivers stopping Johan. He is a winning machine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Great to see Veiby take his first win, real shame that he stalled at the start on Sunday as I think he was on course for another podium, if not victory.
cool to see the european/british champ and the french champ competing there. tho these tracks are so lame, tight corners, no deep dirt, no bouncing and sliding cars in fast corners.... bleh. amazing to see rytkonen winning a race!
haha not convinced by ole's perfomance. johan literally let him pass on the two semi finals (i mean both days). to start from the front. no problem with the tatics, but meeeh, nothing incredible imo hehe
Was a shame that we didn't get Patrick at the last round of the British Championship, but can understand this was maybe a good way of testing the water for 2025.Quote:
Originally Posted by saco0o
French teams aren't usually interested in racing outside of France (which kind of makes sense given how strong their own Championship is), really good to see them at a World round.
We did get to see a bit of overtaking though: and that is something that a lot of the "big" circuit layouts have been lacking.Quote:
Originally Posted by saco0o
I really like OCV (and I think he is a skilled driver), but yeah, JK definitely stepped aside for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by saco0o
I watched a few rounds too, and it's clear than this EV cars are shitty. They should scrap it, on corners it's not exciting and they can't even get power on the ground. At this last round JK was driving so agressive, always outside the lines and still came out way quicker than this electic machines.
This is what bothers me with the suggested 2027 WRC Regs and the 'Battle of Technologies". The rally cars still using ICE power will likely still be the best for the job and any manufacturers coming with an alternative wont knowing they'll be beaten. Just equalizing power to weight just doesn't equate in rallying. It's the location of the weight and how power is delivered which is crucial.Quote:
Originally Posted by deephouse
not sure you fellas are big rallycross followers but try to check it out in 2025 the "RallyX Championship".
its a really good championship normally racing in sweden-norway-finland-denmark. (it was even called rallyx nordic. and 'rallyx scandinavia before that when it was created - around 2015, i think?). this year they expanded into germany and for 2025 they will be running two championships (something like that). one in those nordic countries - as always - and a new 'southern series' in mainland europe (probably in france-germany-hungary). then they are planning a big finale with the top teams from each of these two series. (hope it is lydden hill - uk). the top class here is "open 4wd", so you can race petrol, bio fuel, evs, modifieds... its great! PLUS they run an "open 4wd am" for drivers that are not racing top level class (i mean, theres a few world/euroRX cars competing there, so it gets hard for other fellas running 2014 euroRX cars, for example, so they have this separated final for them) they also plan to have something in america, since nitrocross may be dead for good.
they have andrew coley broadcasting, and its live on youtube for free, open chat. always a blast to watch racing and chat with other fellas. give it a try if you dont know this one! (yep, kristofferson is a multi-time champ there haha. oliver solberg and niclas gronholm also won titles there!)
I much prefer the combustion cars, but don't forget that the RX1E cars are carrying an extra 160kg to slow them down this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by deephouse
I thought that the RX1E cars took a huge step forward with the improvements they introduced last year. Compare them at somewhere like Montalagre and they behave like "normal" cars now (which I don't think is true if you watch any footage any them from their debut season in 2022). The times were way quicker as well.
I am not a massive Hansen fan, but I could understand where they were coming from with the complaint about the weight difference this year. Those extra 160kg were what was causing such a massive different at somewhere like Istanbul.
RallyX is great! This year hasn't been its best season (in my personal opinion), but still a brilliant series and definitely one of the best rallycross Championship at the moment. The RallyX livestream is superb; well organised, fun but professional presentation and all free!Quote:
Originally Posted by saco0o
For me Rallycross France is king at the moment, but then it has always been an incredibly strong series.
This is my point. Using extra weight to slow a more powerful (electric) car is too crude as the extra weight also has to be braked and rotated. It would be better if they made the same power and torque as the ICE cars in the first place.Quote:
Originally Posted by tbtstt
This lesson must be applied in any similar situation re the next WRC Regs.
Yeah, absolutely. I could be wrong, but I think the Equalization of Technology rules for World RX were knocked up pretty quickly. They have had this year to review them now (plus a whole season of data), so I hope that there are tweaks made to regulations before the 2025 season starts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
As much as I was bored of hearing a Hansen say "160 kg" in an interview, I do think that the electric cars had less advantageous moments...
...that said, they were up against JK. So they were always at a disadvantage. ;)
johan is bizarre. he won the 2021 title on an audi too. you can have him in any car and he will win. hes not 3x extreme-e champ because mikaela sucked in two situations in that second season, where loeb won. cant stop this guy, jeez. i want to see him doing more rally. once he masters it, kalle would have some problems.... haha
There needs to come a time when this Championship gets two in the back of the head.
And I think that time is coming.
A bunch of families pretending to be a real world championship.
found this in another forum. perfect:
(...)FIA president Mohammed Ben Sulayem said: “The FIA World Rallycross Championship has evolved a huge amount in terms of technology and sporting competition in recent years while remaining true to its heritage as one of the most exciting and accessible categories in all of motorsport(...)
This is what worries me. The "PR B.S." ate these people's brain. Read this sentence again. Its not possible these people are still conectect to reality. Honestly. WHAT technology? That spec electric kit that exploded and since then the company itself hasnt produce ANY new kit? Competition? With the richiest team backed by VW Sverige winning every year? "Remaining true to its heritage"? WHAT HERITAGE? Like Lydden? Estering? France? "Acessible"???? there has been 8 cars competing because its expensive as f* to compete (and to host races too! The fees sky-rocket under RBMH!)
This is whats wrong with the sport! THe people in charge lost touch with reality.
and here is why the fia world rx is probably dead:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c....reddit.com%2F
this is so incredible!! now we are talking!!
tho im always thinking "wooow fellas, rx is a small sport, chill out a little bit. 3 races is enough for each championship, lets not rush to much" haha cant you see the americans failing year after year for trying big things? lol
WorldRX is a small, niche European sport, and should stay that way. It's not big enough to be a global World series.........There simply isn't the interest, or money to support it. In fact, it reminds me so much of Cyclocross in cycling.
agree. i saw tommy kristoffersson (johan's father - kms team owner) arguing on facebook they need to keep the 'world championship' status, but thats selfish. he needs the world series status to keep his partnership with volkswagen, redbull, castrol, etc. but thats what is screwing all the other racers that cant put together a budget to race in this mega expensive championship. i'd go back to euroRX, 8 rounds (drop 1) and thats it.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
if theres interest, expand back to 10 rounds. but thats it. thats the max limit imo
It should be world class series, but they need to do it right. Attract manufacturers, have snow, tarmac, gravel, mixed events, have multi continent calendar (obviously isn't Euro centered sport if the thing grows in USA) and dates being distributed for whole year not just ''summer'', bring some names back who could actually challenge Kristofferson, make better cars (drop those stupid EVs), not having RedBull over all cars.
I'd like to see Johan and Kalle going head-to-head as well. Two absolute greats of this era in my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by saco0o
I can't wait to see how RallyX pans out in 2025 and I absolutely hope it goes well, but I am a little concerned that they are going to try and do too much, too fast, and end up spread too thin.Quote:
Originally Posted by saco0o
Given who runs RallyX, with Nitro now gone, they need to get something going in the US to continue earning off that customer base.
If the WorldRX will not delivering, believe me, they will succeed. I don't know, but I have a feeling WorldRX will die soon if not changed soon.
same here. we got a leak one month or so ago about rallyx splitting into two series (north/south) and that was an incredible news, because it was solely focused on putting everybody to race at low cost. we knew they were talking to valkenswaard and portugal, they were talking about 2wd classes, national entries. thats it! its PERFECT!Quote:
Originally Posted by tbtstt
but then they announced these "americas" and "global" divisions too. i dont think thats good. it is literally impossible to sustain an american championship (no roots to grow from. period) and the global division is going to be heavy on the costs for the FC1x/FC2 teams (2 races in US, 3 in europe). not sure its going to work. i hope it does. it even has the potential of atracting kms and hansen if WorldRX is cancelled. that would help, fine. but we gotta wait and see. but i agree. i fear they are going too fast with the expansion already, especially seeing rx doesnt work in america
someone posted on fb... FIA has approved basically all 2025 calendars, but theres no world and no european rx calendars on the list. weeeeird. last year they had one with a few TBAs, this year they have nothing
https://www.fia.com/news/2025-fia-sp...-sport-council
The WRX calendar was approved a while ago..Quote:
Originally Posted by saco0o
https://www.fiaworldrallycross.com/a...ld-RX-calendar
but its not listed on today's fia release with all the other championships. maybe its nothing, but it looked weird not seeing rx among all the other calendarsQuote:
Originally Posted by rallyfiend
world championship race in canada (January 2025) is cancelled.
Source ? Reason ?Quote:
Originally Posted by saco0o
https://www.instagram.com/p/DDhfti9uQ7s/Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
"reasons outside their control" (event promoter)
rallycross also disapeared from the ticket sale's page
https://billets.gp3r.com/?searchtext=rallycross
I guess Canada was a contract of RX Promoter, and when they stopped being the promoter, the commitment disappeared?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
I wonder how many other events will disappear.
With this event due as early as January it was an unfortunate casualty of the change of Promoter. Hopefully there's still time for the other races to get a arrangement in place and keep World RX going in 2025.Quote:
Originally Posted by rallyfiend
best suggestion i read out there is that fia will be the promoter, all rounds to be raced in europe while keeping 'world championship" status.
btw, extreme-H (now a fia world cup) is also way more quietly than what i expected. they ended their 2024 season in the middle of the championship afrer they decided to go full hydrogen in 25. i enjoyed this series. hope it doesnt dies
bakkerud is getting some support from monster and other partners to start his own team to compete in the norwegean championship, some rallyX rounds and holjes race in the world championship...? but ehh, lets see this one. really good news, i like bakku! hope he brings his channel back. it was always fun!
https://www.instagram.com/p/DDxXdvCNMZi/
ufff now every WorldRX social media accounts disapeared.
not sure for rebranding or if its just dead...?