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It needed clarifying as the selective quotes chosen by Rally Journal were misleading...Quote:
Originally Posted by WRCStan
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/neuvi...ment-comments/
It's also a bit worrying re Hyundai and Neuville obviously has doubts about their continuation with the new Regs.
I know this is less about the rally itself, but I do hope Hyundai does something special for their livery in Croatia like last year; After all it will be a year since, and I sincerely hope they do something more than 'for Craig' in Croatia.
Are you a journalist or team member or...?Quote:
Originally Posted by CeskyOndra
Do you guys think after this Rally (Kenya for future reference), & Cyril's statement there's a real threat we won't see Hyundai Motorsport after this season?
I think it will be decided by men in suits in faraway offices for reasons that make no great sense to the rest of us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
I think there is a high chance based on Cyril interviews to dirtfish and autohebdo.
I think his heart belong to formula. He constantly compare those two sports. Man, I hope he does not pushing out of the sport. Those words about competive car is such dumb. All three manus are on the same page right now and will be even in june, when rules will be on paper. No one will get the advantage. So they will all get same amount of time for preparing their machines. Their decision of staying could also be a factor if they win at least driver championship. It's necessary I think. If both, even better. Hyundai did rise their sale numbers because of the sport, even if they are not winning or dominate. Toyota don't need to rise it because they were already at the top before they came in it. Their boss just like rallying and it's their herritage. Hyundai's decision of ending their N-line of ICE cars is such a stupid move and they will regret it. Some brands are bringing ICE engines back, because they realize EV will never replace that technology.
What I don't get it is why all three were so against hybrid few weeks ago, now when they will remove it from cars, are all against it. Why? Just why?
Yes there is real danger I think. Been rumoured for ages and lets be honest the current future of the whole sport is in dangerous spot to be honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
Not for me, I think there is possibility the manufacturers championship returns to a makes championships and Hyundai will be represented by customers in Rally2/+. Can't have Toyota as the only serious entrant vs M-Sport, even if the results look like it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
I was already saying for some time that Hyundai global are pulling out, but there won't be an announcement mid-season. They don't need to play any PR games, it's clear to every man and his dog that most of the automotive market is moving away from what motorsport offers.
Will be glad to be proven wrong, nothing good to come out of it.
I doubt it has anything with his F1 background. He is saying what Hyundai wants him to say. Same as Thierry and Kalle for Toyota. I guess current manufacturers don't enjoy their lack of influence on new regulations.Quote:
Originally Posted by deephouse
Instead of PET for Mikkelsen: https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/mikke...yundai-rally1/
Interesting comments by FX:
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/hyund...fault-in-2023/
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Originally Posted by Eli
And then.. Abiteboul wines about that Tanak should learn from Neuville, how to handle situations.. :DQuote:
....we had a problem with this new casing. So we had to cancel the homologation because it was no better than the one we had.
Ffs, at the end of the day,one driver is WDC and other 10-years-trying-to-be-one..
Yeah, not a very good phrasing from Abiteboul I think when he said "Ott will have to get up to speed." The speed is there, just maybe sometimes too much. Ott himself said that it seems like they really need to get their consistency back. Whatever happened on the Friday in Kenya, there was really no other option to save it so there was no chance that time. In Sweden and Monte Carlo, they were clearly his mistakes which normally he shouldn’t do. I just hope that they can put together some decent rallies from now on and avoid mistakes.
One had the chance to drive Toyota, one is driving unreliable Hyundai for way too long...Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeR
But yes, Abiteboul likes to run his mouth about his drivers.
I would say the 2nd line is as wrong as the 1st one :) What is your story, if Neuville gets the title this year? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeR
What do you mean wrong?Quote:
Originally Posted by meh
If he gets the title, then very good for him! I would say that different WDC is good for series PR also..
FIA’s 2025 WRC rules timeline too tight for Hyundai to do a “good job” says
Cyril Abiteboul:
https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/f...4403/10594403/
This has hit them pretty hard. I mean you have all the plans for the new car and now just scrap itQuote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Based on the current regs but they were changed now and as a regular fan you may think it isn’t a big change but it is
Imagine They had made all the calculations and etc with current regs and now suddenly it’s changed
“I’m sure, if the FIA needs a quicker decision, I’m very confident they can find ways. They must appreciate that a ratification of rules in June for a car that needs to be designed, tested and validated for January, it is not a lot of time to design, build, test and validate."
“We are talking about substantial changes to the car and the power and weight distribution and aerodynamic behaviour, and the change to the wing is not a small change. I don’t want to put a figure on it, but it is a huge change. I know we are not in Formula 1, but aero in rally still matters and we are talking about balance shifts, and we need to do a good job around it. There are guidelines but now we need rules and as quickly as possible.”
- said Abiteboul, and it totally makes sense
Why did the FIA panic?
Why aren't the other teams complaining? They too need new wings.
They probably are... but not publicly.Quote:
Originally Posted by WRCStan
Hyundai are also very sensitive after they were well behind the others in car development when the hybrid cars came out in 2022.
Plus the Hyundai HQ wont be at all happy about wasting more money and still unable to beat their deadly rival Toyota.
Kenya road book
https://youtu.be/Bethf37Hv_Q?si=4isuaLSPScGtnYoH
im kinda losing interess in wrc this year but these type of content (and what dirtfish does too) are still really fun to watch. dammit, i guess i became a gen-z, needing 'reality show drama' instead of the actual to sport to get enterteined.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
You hasve a point here. Reality more than incar from stages. But what should it be more than a camera in the face of a mechanics then?Quote:
Originally Posted by saco0o
i used to enjoy eurosport's 45 minute highlights from the erc. its basically like what redbull tv does for wrc, but it was all compressed into one 45 minute video instead of three 25 minute video where lots of these 25+25+25 are just recaps and introductions (for saturday and sunday). they used to follow some story more close, like ingram battling lukyanuk, or solberg battling lukyanuk, or following the 'local entry' that normally won the race, which was cool. that said, i think most of us like to see these 'behind the scene' stuff, drivers interacting a little bit, some talks with the mechanics. nothing exagerated, just some piece of the 'whats wrong with the car now?". im becoming a fan of dirt fish's weird coverage, where colin clark is the actual star (haha). those bloopers and the big half hour behind the scenes videos they are doing. if i were in charge, i guess i'd make a mix of these stuff. insert the behind the scene stuff + the "follow the story of the rally", all into the 3 day combined highlights into one thing. have that on tv too, on sunday evening. but anyway, we all have ideas on "how to improve wrc promotion and broadcast" here, ehQuote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
On a different matter:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxCYUflNRH4
Tänak's insight from his crash in Monte-Carlo back in 2020.
Seems like Hyundai drivers are also part time fashion models..
New overalls' design again.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GLMhJhaW...pg&name=medium
That's nice but I was kinda hoping they'd do something more reminiscent to last year. It's somewhat too subdued imho.Quote:
Originally Posted by Managarium
https://youtu.be/sTW4YtTbE0U?feature=shared
Another fantastic video from the event, brought to you by Hyundai Motorsport.
This is the proof that it could be done with fans help. When I propose that kind of coverage everyone here completely lose their minds, like always. But this looks great. I think that it could be fun and championship something spectacular if they offer, that fans could help cover some sections and it would be brodcasted on live.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
Fans are stupid, and would stand in dangerous locations trying to outdo each other. So stages would get cancelled, so the other fans would get angry.Quote:
Originally Posted by deephouse
Hang on, maybe this is a good way for FIA and Promoter to get their sprint events, just have moron fans cause half the stages to be cancelled!
I’ve actually asked Becks about this (some 8+ years ago), I suggested that they’d get coverage from people’s smartphones (‘cause it was already pretty popular at the time) and she replied they’d never do it ‘cause then the promoter would lose too much money.Quote:
Originally Posted by deephouse
About car sharing.. as Mikkelsen's drives were confirmed, can we assume the others..?
Monte - Mikkelsen
Sweden - Lappi
Kenya - Lappi
Croatia - Mikkelsen
Portugal - Sordo
Sardegna - Sordo?
Poland - Mikkelsen
Latvia - Lappi?
Finland - Lappi?
Greece - Sordo?
Chile - Lappi?
CER - Mikkelsen
Japan - Mikkelsen
Then it would be:
5/13 Mikkelsen
5/13 Lappi
3/13 Sordo
Maybe Lappi in Greece and Sordo in Chile given last year’s results?Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeR
Liaison episode 4:
https://youtu.be/EWXEE3lquo4?feature=shared
These really are great videos.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
Chile is too fast for Sordo I think, and Sardegna is 99% for SordoQuote:
Originally Posted by Eli