I think it's Monty Python.
EuroTroll beat me to it. :mad:
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I think it's Monty Python.
EuroTroll beat me to it. :mad:
:p :
That's the one lol.
I use Chrome on my iPhone and have relegated Safari to the lesser used apps folder.
As an ex Android user this is something I can relate to.
HTC: 'Using widgets and constantly customising homescreens is so 2010' | News | TechRadarQuote:
HTC revamped its Sense UI after learning that most smartphone owners rarely use widgets and barely bother to customise their homescreens after the first month of tweaking.
After we've placed short cuts and put apps in quickly accessible places, how many of us constantly customise our home screens? Obviously customisation is limited on iPhone to just having icons for apps on the homescreen, but having access to widgets and news feed widgets is not something I have missed from Android.
Agree. I'm still sorting my tiles out, but after i do that i doubt I'll do much changing at all.
And today the bbc announce that they will support wp8 and wp7.5 :) not sure if that means that the bbc site will work for video with these phones though.
Unfortunately its not in app form. Its a live tile that links to BBC media player but better than not having access at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
Sorry, my bad. I assumed as it had a live tile it was an app, you can put a shortcut as a live tile, but it's not really a live tile, just a shortcut.Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
What the functionality entails will be interesting, with it not being an app, I do wonder why they don't just make the BBC site work for WP devices?
I guess the details will come out in the future.....
Why it's not an App I don't quite understand. The BBC will have to develop an App for Windows 8 and the additional cost of development can't be too much. I saw good reason for the Beeb not to do it for WP7, but WP8 is proving to be more popular and really deserves better support.
I might be wrong but iPlayer don't provide a dedicated app for Blackberry either and they are the third most popular platform in the UK. Although Windows is growing they are still only supplying a small proportion of the market and there is still the fear they won't be anywhere near as popular as the market leaders, Android and iOS. I remember when I first started using Android and app's were slow coming out, and its frustrating. There is the added part where its been reported recently that a couple of hardware manufacturers have paused development on Windows phones because the OS is harder to work with than that of Android. Something Windows perhaps have in common with Apple in that respect. Its not ideal but making the site mobile friendly appears to be the cheaper alternative when there is still uncertainty over whether WP8 will be successful in the long term. One of the reasons I moved to iOS was because of app choice and the quality of app's appears to be of a higher standard. I've re-purchased a few apps I had originally on my HTC and they come with more features and run in a much more stable fashion.
I've been reading the posts here and I must say that I have been totally left behind in my knowledge of smart phones. Obviously from what I read above, the smart phone has already replaced the desk top and lap top computers not to mention the tablets in many of the functions available, especially those relating to recreational usage. Sure, Geeks (I say this in the most respectful manner) will always find better usage in an ultrabook powered by an i7 core. One Geek I met in Costco told me he is in the IT industry in the Ukrain, and he pointed to a Toshiba Ultrabook powered by an i5 core is more than what he needs to do his work. If he needed any programs, he didn't need a disc drive - everything is available on the internet.
You and me both. And while I have an iPod Touch that I use all the time, I'm still rockin' a 2003 Motorola V60i flip phone. I was determined to make it last a full 10 years - I made it! And what with my new job being different in certain ways than my previous job (if I had WiFi in my car, I could maybe hold out a bit longer!), I guess I'll have to go ahead and join the smartphone crowd later this year. I knew the day would eventually come when I'd have to bury my old friend. And now it's almost here. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Valve Bounce
The next iPhone is of course my likely choice. But I'm willing to look at this new Blackberry OS too. Apparently for security reasons, Android is the only OS that I can't use on the office network.
My shiny new Sony Xperia V arrived today.
Black front, weirdly curvy on the back and waterproofing up the wazoo. :D
Then I realized my current SIM card won't fit in it. :arrows:
Unless I cut the old SIM card into a micro SIM, I have a tiny Wifi table for two weeks until my new operator ships me a new SIM card.
Well, I think with the Lumia 920 and now the 520 and 720, Nokia are going to make some inroads.Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
Personally I'm not all that bothered, I would be happy if the Beeb site worked as I do sometimes miss the ability to watch videos when a story doesn't have any text, but it's no biggie.
I had a tiny wifi tablet (Lumia 800) for about a year, it's actually quite useful to have two phones. At the moment I have three, cancelling my two other contracts over the next month! :) I will still use my 800 to track exercise and listen to music on, but that'll be it.Quote:
Originally Posted by janneppi
10 years! That's amazing! I can't remember the longest I've had a phone for, I guess my e71 is the one that in recent years I've had for the longest, I've still got it (bought in early 2009) and was using it up until July last year, although there was a year where I didn't use it at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior
You might be right but I can't see them dominating the market as I think they joined just too late. Bill Gates admits they screwed their mobile strategy up just recently too. I mentioned a few pages back that a friend of mine had the Lumia 920 but they have since swapped for an iPhone and the others I know have very basic entry level WP8 phones. They just don't seem to have the same widespread appeal from my experience. I admit they do a very good job but lack of competitive apps and fashion appeal are making things difficult IMO. Their marketing is good and is on TV most nights I've noticed. If they were set against Android of 2 years ago I think they would be sitting comfortably in second spot behind Apple right now. The fact Blackberry RIM had a year off producing software and Hardware and are still third most successful OS can't be easy reading for Microsoft right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
You can't expect them to have the highest market share after barely a couple of years.Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
The reason BB is still third is because of extensive business usage which doesn't change that fast cause companies will not buy employees a new shiny phone every time a new player come to the table, it has to become obsolete, brake or be lost before you get a new one.
I'm aware if that ioan yeah.
So, how often did you lose your company phone?! :pQuote:
Originally Posted by henners88
Not very often if ever. Smashed a couple in the past though. Writing this on my own mobile right now ;)
Heres a good article from an iPhone user who spent 30 days with a WP8 phone. Plenty of positive feedback.
An iPhone Lover's Take on 30 Days with Windows Phone 8
Every non-smartphone I've owned has broken soon after the contract I bought it on expired, which I presumed was intentional to get me to buy a new phone on a new contract and keep demand up. Every smartphone I've had except for the HTC Desire became unusable after a similar period because they couldn't cope with the demands made on them by the OS updates they received.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior
You must have kept your phone hidden away in bubble wrap to get it to last so long.
I guess phone makers have learnt very well from carmakers, no point in giving too much quality and reliability because that means the consumer will be happy with what they have for too long and they won't be coming back for more in a hurry.
Are you sure its waterproofed?Quote:
Originally Posted by janneppi
One of my best friends dropped his in the sink soon after telling me that he didn't see the point in waterproofing phones. Sure enough his Xperia V stopped working once he'd fished it out. He's bought a new Xperia Z instead which most definitely is waterproof.
It's of no use, but I actually still have the first cellphone that I ever got (1990 or so) that was installed in my car. And here's something else that I just realized: every cellphone that I have ever owned has been a Motorola. That car phone was a Motorola. The StarTacs that I had in the 90's were Motorolas. My last company phones were all Motorolas. And of course, so is the V60. Even the pager I used to carry was a Motorola - I think I still have it too. Weird...Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
And what do you know: The Motorola StarTAC is Back, in Yellow
I mainly use phones just to talk. I hate texting. I don't do the social network thing. I (only) check emails in the office, at home or when I get back to the hotel. And while it would be helpful to have a feature phone, I've managed to do OK without that for so long, I just don't see the cost/benefit. To be honest, if every facility I have to visit for this new company had ready, easy WiFi access, I'd just stick with Ol' Sparky and use the iPod Touch to access other data. An additional $60/month to have something that I won't use that much! That's several race weekends over the course of a year. :mad:
Not at all. It's been dropped numerous times and it's gotten wet many times too, though I've never let it be submersed in water. Other than replacing the antennae and the battery (several times), it's in surprisingly good shape and still works just fine. I've used it every day for the past ten years. I haven't had a landline phone in eight years. So this has been either my primary phone or my secondary phone (when I've worked for companies that gave me a free-use phone).Quote:
Originally Posted by Malbec
As far as I can thell, both V and Z are IP57, so they should be fine. Although I wouldn't dip either of them in a glass of water. Sealing is done on o-rings that go around the rear plate and it all depends on how well the o-rings sit in place. Besides Sony doesn't mention waterproof, just water resistant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Malbec
Henners' link shows wp8 really well. It's a good is, perhaps not for people who want zillions of apps, but they work just fine and the interface is fantastic :) If people give wp8 a chance, most will like it :)
Yeah I posted it because it showed WP8 from a positive perspective. Trying to give a bit of balance plus it addressed the issue of apps quite well.
Hah! The things my users would get up to in order to attempt to gat a new phone....Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
Phones 'run over', left out in the rain, dropped in the bath, sink, toilet!
They don't look so smug when I replace like for like, I can tell you.
We've got one chap, a right PITA, he wants a Z10, and does not realise I'd have to purchase Server 2008 or 2012, then run two versions of BES, just cos he wants a new toy. (And no, I wont use Activesync as then I open a real BYOD nightmare)
Yup. You know what made me laugh once, someone on here once said that people should be able to use personal devices like phones, tablets and their own laptops for work. There are enough issues with viruses in most places without actually getting people to bring their own devices in. Bonkers I tell you....... Hell, they even argued that it made people more productive :rotflmao: If only I remembered who it was, oh how I'd laugh :DQuote:
Originally Posted by SGWilko
You should buy a fluffy white cat to stroke while laughing once you have a recollection........Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
Daniel actually does this I've seen it ;)
It is actually a thing. BYOD bring your own device. Some suggest more like buy your own device.
I know it's a thing :) I allowed people at the last place I worked at to use their phones on WiFi in certain areas where people were only around at break times, but I would never allow someone's laptop on the domain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
There's a fine line between letting people get on with things and stopping them doing their work. The place I'm temping for at the moment tends to let people get on with things and it's quite good I have to say, but if I'd taken that approach where I was before, people would have taken the p......
Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
With proper restrictions the BYOD idea works very well. It is used at my daughters school with a great deal of sucess. After the initial restrictions and security concerns are addressed it actually frees up a lot of resources that can be used for other things.
It all depends what you're hoping to achieve. At the place I'm working for at the moment, they work in a very competitive industry which they dominate at the moment so security is of the utmost importance when there's a lot of commercially sensitive stuff flying around. What do they use? Blackberry's, even though the IT people love their Android and Apple phones. We do use google docs quite a bit, but only for collaborative things with suppliers with no commercially sensitive data.Quote:
Originally Posted by airshifter
At the college I was working for, the students were young adults with learning difficulties and keeping them safe was my primary concern, so letting them on the web through regular broadband was a no no unless they were on one of my machines with our (rather Orwellian I have to say) web monitoring software.
In all corporate environments I've worked in, the whole BYOD thing has never really been something which has been allowed. When I worked for a local county, the head of the county wanted a netbook, so we bought him one, it was quite slow, he complained about this, it was entirely his fault.
This is what I like about BB10 - the balance feature. It kind of takes care of the BYOD aspect by seperating the policy driven work side of the device from the personal side.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
A nice feature IMO, which if I had the budget I would deploy a BES10 server tomorrow (actually, make that Monday!).
You mean you don't use Server 2008 yet? :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by SGWilko
You'll be amazed to learn how many companies do that though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
About 1 year ago I read an article in a business newspaper where some people actually stated that they think they are more productive since the company implemented a BYOD policy. There were also some who thought BYOD is just not right, I guess the later were the ones who have been in the business longer.
On our two DL370's we do, yes. These servers run our SAN software/hardware - Datacore/MSA70. We've two 380's running ESX 5, and our production environment is virtual. All the VM's bar 1 are 2003 std or ent. There is a legacy VM running 2000 pro!Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
We are a property co. For years, the Chairman and CEO were fairly risk averse, so while we did not set the world alight, we ticked over. Then, when they sold out, we had a banker take up the CEO mantle. Straight in the job and this banker undertakes 2 speculative developments at once, in 2007. Makes you understand how this wunch of bankers led us down the financial oblivion road! So, just as the credit crunch sets in, this supposed ex banker who ought to know, puts up two buildings without so much as a pre-let.
Cue a lack of finance, even bigger lack of tenants, and our share price slips to 5p from a high of £4.40.
Amongst all this I have to get board approval for IT budgets - so while the bankers are pi55ing what is left of the pot up the wall entertaining agents who are incapable of finding tenanst even if they bumped into one in the street, I get put on the back burner to simmer gently.
We've had a hostile takeover attempt by a Seth Efrican shareholder, more money up the wall fighting this....
Then, we are finally sold to venture capitalists, who - as it turned out - overpaid for the company, and are reigning everything in.
Hence why we still use 2003 - both Server and Office, and XP on the desktops.
Every payday right now is a bonus, as they could pull the plug anytime if they so wished.....
Still, could be worse I suppose ;)
I'm totally free to use my phone on the companies Wifi whenever I wish. Its not become a problem for us but then again I use my phone a fair bit during the day for work business anyway. The people at the bottom of the ladder don't get the same freedom but thats life. I think with smartphones these days you can get on the internet without the need for wifi so providing it for employee's makes no difference. Not that they do this that I am aware but if you restrict wifi access, it just means employee's will use 3G and if there ever was a need to monitor what they are doing, you couldn't do it. Its in the companies interest IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel