WRC main class in 2025

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Originally Posted by seb_sh

you should read the thread :)

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Yes, read the thread... and you get 0 new answers.

According to master engineers and racinc-doctors.. absolutely nothing would bring new manus or change anything.
Cheaper cars/engines, more ,,street-car'' parts etc wouldn't make any change.

Easy and short advice to bring back the excitement:

- easier/cheaper cars for more racing element
- SD as quali stage for picking starting order for Friday...which bring lots of more people to watch the SD and all the attention that goes with it + starting pos/quali strategy.

It's just the FIA and WRC that don't do anything and scratch thei 8alls.
Look at Dakar.. Renault/Dacia got the two of the biggest names under their belt for 2025+ dakar campaign..

Companies have tons of money, it is just how different series can sell it to them.

In that case, wrc has failed to the max.

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Originally Posted by TypeR

Yes, read the thread... and you get 0 new answers.

According to master engineers and racinc-doctors.. absolutely nothing would bring new manus or change anything.
Cheaper cars/engines, more ,,street-car'' parts etc wouldn't make any change.

Easy and short advice to bring back the excitement:

- easier/cheaper cars for more racing element
- SD as quali stage for picking starting order for Friday...which bring lots of more people to watch the SD and all the attention that goes with it + starting pos/quali strategy.

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that's just your opinion, I think it's disrespectful of people who came here and spent time to explain some things and write opinions and discuss to say "i don't care what has been discussed, here's my opinion", maybe it's ok for tiktok

also maybe spend some time to spell check if you want to be taken seriously

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Originally Posted by TypeR

Okay. grammar-steward.. it is racing* not racinc.
But let it be.

Talking about ,,spell check''..
Thank god your spelling is 257% correct with all the capital letters and punctuation marks.

+ I also come here, spend my time to express my opinion about different topics and stuff..


And about tiktok.. I have never been there or used it, so I can't say anything about your favourite sites.

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aha! very good! I suppose you agree with the rest of my post then? :)

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Originally Posted by seb_sh

aha! very good! I suppose you agree with the rest of my post then? :)

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No.
Try to spell check your post and wait for engineers to like your post.

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Originally Posted by TypeR

No.
Try to spell check your post and wait for engineers to like your post.

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Then I'm out of luck, there are no engineers here, only forum users... :(

I was doing a social media review of Rallye Monte Carlo and yeah, basically the post that engaged more people than everything else combined was the "fireworks" moment (30" video played more than 10 million times!), with loads of people asking the follows:

- where they can see the WRC
- bring the WRC to their country (super-engaged people from the USA)
- asking more free and live content on the above-mentioned social media.

WRC needs to work on "sell an epic story" (without asking out-of-this-world prices for TV rights that nobody will pay!) and invest on making each WRC event unique and spectacular. With which cars it won't make any huge difference tbh.

After reviewing the social media performances, I decided that big part of the survey I completed was focused on the "spectacle", with a lot of suggestions I made them to spice the weekends up, including gaming arenas in the fan areas, music shows at the service park, captivating merch, more autograph/meet-the-heroes sessions, different SSS (Acropolis with Olympic Stadium, Mexico with the streets of Guanajuato, horse track in Sweden, etc.), improvement on both opening ceremony and podium finishes (with ledwall/lighting-fitted ramps and DJs performing), creating "arenas" with screens/merch/VIP Skyboxes to sell) on specific special stages during the weekends (Sweden and Finland are masters on that!), etc.

There's so much to do, so it's quite overdue for the Promoter to open its pocket and invest, if wants some proper return and growth of the commercial side of the championship (more events, more manufacturers, more fans, more MONEY).

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Originally Posted by typhoon

I was doing a social media review of Rallye Monte Carlo and yeah, basically the post that engaged more people than everything else combined was the "fireworks" moment (30" video played more than 10 million times!), with loads of people asking the follows:

- where they can see the WRC
- bring the WRC to their country (super-engaged people from the USA)
- asking more free and live content on the above-mentioned social media.

WRC needs to work on "sell an epic story" (without asking out-of-this-world prices for TV rights that nobody will pay!) and invest on making each WRC event unique and spectacular. With which cars it won't make any huge difference tbh.

After reviewing the social media performances, I decided that big part of the survey I completed was focused on the "spectacle", with a lot of suggestions I made them to spice the weekends up, including gaming arenas in the fan areas, music shows at the service park, captivating merch, more autograph/meet-the-heroes sessions, different SSS (Acropolis with Olympic Stadium, Mexico with the streets of Guanajuato, horse track in Sweden, etc.), improvement on both opening ceremony and podium finishes (with ledwall/lighting-fitted ramps and DJs performing), creating "arenas" with screens/merch/VIP Skyboxes to sell) on specific special stages during the weekends (Sweden and Finland are masters on that!), etc.

There's so much to do, so it's quite overdue for the Promoter to open its pocket and invest, if wants some proper return and growth of the commercial side of the championship (more events, more manufacturers, more fans, more MONEY).

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Indeed, the WRC is quite behind on promotion, I see a lot of people looking at short videos thinking it's cool but if there's no "story" to follow those people are soon lost. It's also why I think it'd good to "cast a wider net" to promote future talents, having an elite few is VERY dangerous. If you look in the past whenever the top class was accesible we got more top level drivers from different countries with a lot of fans. I think there's a lot of narrow thinking in organising and promoting WRC and I fear for the future. Meanwhile I'll be attending other series live (cough WEC cough), 8 Rally1 cars is not worth if for me.

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Originally Posted by TypeR

Yes, read the thread... and you get 0 new answers.

According to master engineers and racinc-doctors.. absolutely nothing would bring new manus or change anything.
Cheaper cars/engines, more ,,street-car'' parts etc wouldn't make any change.

Easy and short advice to bring back the excitement:

- easier/cheaper cars for more racing element
- SD as quali stage for picking starting order for Friday...which bring lots of more people to watch the SD and all the attention that goes with it + starting pos/quali strategy.

It's just the FIA and WRC that don't do anything and scratch thei 8alls.
Look at Dakar.. Renault/Dacia got the two of the biggest names under their belt for 2025+ dakar campaign..

Companies have tons of money, it is just how different series can sell it to them.

In that case, wrc has failed to the max.

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Thing is with this thread is that it's all about finding an instant fix for immediate issues, ready to go in what is now next season, just 10 and a half months away. That is no base to discuss ways to attract manufacturers.

There's no conversation here about the collapse of European industry and being replaced by China; the heartland of WRC is being replaced by a sportless society, never mind the suitability of the new energy sources in rallying. It's impossible to have conversations about who the target manufacturers are when the thread wants to discuss noisiness of cars, or whether crews should have fresh tyres for the power stage, or qualifying stages, or spicing up the service park, or social media. Everybody is entitled to share opinions but none of this matters in context of the long term and manufacturers.

I agree the FIA have been caught napping, but the presidency has no authority and those with the power really do not care. There was a little bit about formats and electric and hybrid in that survey, but there has been zero noise from the working group or presidency about what WRC will be like in 5-10 years time. That's concerning.

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Originally Posted by WRCStan

Thing is with this thread is that it's all about finding an instant fix for immediate issues, ready to go in what is now next season, just 10 and a half months away. That is no base to discuss ways to attract manufacturers.

There's no conversation here about the collapse of European industry and being replaced by China; the heartland of WRC is being replaced by a sportless society, never mind the suitability of the new energy sources in rallying. It's impossible to have conversations about who the target manufacturers are when the thread wants to discuss noisiness of cars, or whether crews should have fresh tyres for the power stage, or qualifying stages, or spicing up the service park, or social media. Everybody is entitled to share opinions but none of this matters in context of the long term and manufacturers.

I agree the FIA have been caught napping, but the presidency has no authority and those with the power really do not care. There was a little bit about formats and electric and hybrid in that survey, but there has been zero noise from the working group or presidency about what WRC will be like in 5-10 years time. That's concerning.

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I disagree that this thread is not about that, some people have raised such concerns, that's why I said we should read the thread and reply in context. Otherwise your reply is spot on. I think the WRC needs to find a way to exist in the future.

I'll add one thing, this thread was started in 2022 and had a lot of discussion, meanwhile the FIA has been sleeping and now they are between a rock and hard place. They screwed up and yet again they have to find a short term solution. This is why the ACO, SRO, F1 whatever you want is doing well right now, they planned for the long term, while the WRC is having to do knee jerk reactions.