:up: Amen brother :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by thunderbolt
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:up: Amen brother :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by thunderbolt
That's what I have been posting for several years! Stewards are different at each race. They are similar to jurors in a legal trial. That's why sometimes a murderer will get life in prison and sometimes he will get 5 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by PolePosition_1
The FIA needs to have the same stewards at each race in order for all rulings to be consistent! Bernie could probably pay for a group of "professional traveling stewards" out of his loose pocket change if he wanted to, but controversy is good for the sport and fattening his wallet!
My problem here is not so much whether or not Hamilton gained an advantage - I happen to believe that he did - it's whether he should have received a penalty. Precedent seems to suggest that cutting chicanes can be OK. Based on the fact that Schumacher wasn't penalised for this (where no attempt was made to cede the place gained)...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5UnPeyzcHM
...it would seem churlish to punish Hamilton for an action that was no where near as baltant, particularly after McClaren were told twice by a race official that they were within the rules.
As someone else pointed out on another thread, this is supposed to be the pinnacle of motorsport, and it would seem reasonable to expect the officials to a) agree upon the rules, and b) apply those rules in a consistent manner. I would also expect the rules to be less vaguely framed, and less open to interpretation.
Regards
This one wants clear rules that are applied consistently! By the FIA! :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:Quote:
Originally Posted by hmmm - donuts
Thanks for that. I needed a good laugh. ;)
The more I think about it and watch the video, the more I find myself wondering how a car that has gone off track can rejoin and have more momentum than a car that stays on the racing surface.
The only reasons I can think of are:
1. The car going off track gained an advantage
2. The track is poorly designed so the run-off area gives better traction than the racing surface (in which case, the race should be held on the run-off instead of the track.)
3. The car remaining on the racing surface is a Honda (but then it wouldn't have been in front so that's impossible.)
look at the..like he said..awesome video..mstillhere posted..one of the best onboards I have seen in years..Quote:
Originally Posted by hmmm - donuts
anyway...it also shows me Lewis was :
a) a lot faster as soon as it started to rain !
b) coming up to the chicane he was a lot faster than Kimi...and just before they go into the chicane he was right under Kimi's rear spoiler..
c) coming out of the chicane....he gave back position and was back under Kimi's rear spoiler (same situation as before the chicane )..but this time even goin slower than the Ferrari...seems the car data have been publised to other teams..so yes they showed prove of that....
I hope the statement of the stewards..on what there decission to give Lewis a penalty exactly is based on and what they understand by "advantage"....will be made public...So far the only thing I heard from one of them is that he now is welcome in every Italian restaurant..Not exactly the information people are waiting for to hear !
Having seen in this weeks Motorsport News who the 3 Stewards are, it has to be said that one of them should be no were near a Stewards room. Sending a negative e-mail commenting on Sebastien Loeb's appearance, has me wondering what planet this person inhabits. The F1A should thank him for his efforts and put him out to grass - completely out of touch with the real world.
Because according to the Stewards, if you didn't gain an advantage, you can break the rules and not get punished, as per Massa in Valencia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
Well for the Stewards, how a rule is broken is not the issue, its whether or not you gained an advantage. And in last two incidents, Ferrari were let off, and McLaren were not, despite both not gaining an advantage.
oh and when they cross the line...I want to know where the tow is ?
and if there was any..it was Kimi giving it to Lewis..as he was the one pulling to the left passing the finish line....
Once again - that's why F1 needs permanent, professional stewards that travel to all the races in order to give consistent rulings...Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC