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Splits please sorry. is Linholm doing poorly? Update me whats going on?
Wow Latvala !!! :eek:
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see Aigner photo :eek:
http://www.ewrc.cz
OMG :eek:
Wilson jr is not totally lost in his home rally. He is actually remotely competative :up:
Quicker than Henning or Atko in SS3 - yes, I'd say that was competitive. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by A.F.F.
Matty will never be another Loeb, but he's still only 20 and is learning all the time - he can be a good WRC driver scoring points regularly in the future. I expect on this rally he will be under no orders to drive for a finish either, so he can go flat out for once.
Was Pons fighting (inside the car :) ) this morning?
you are very optimistic.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Whinlatter
Looks lke Lindholm has parked the SX4. Not a great show by a factory team. Shame.
I honestly think Suzuki's visit to WRC will be quicker than Nissan's.Quote:
Originally Posted by noel157
Yes i think Lindholm is out.....good for us...with his pace we would need a calendar to time him not a stopwatch
And hopefully they will get those drivers with them....Quote:
Originally Posted by A.F.F.
oh really? is he out ? :(
Higgins incredibly fast :eek:
well done!
:lol: That got me laughing out load at the office :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
I hope not, it would leave 3-4 drivers without work.Quote:
Originally Posted by A.F.F.
Suzuki design boss Michel Nandan was very critical about the team in an interview in Finnish newspaper Helsingin Sanomat this morning. He said the car was designed in Japan before he came along and that they have no money to test the car. Sounds very alarming.
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Originally Posted by N.O.T
Unfortuneately for you, you'll see the SX4 wrc on next year's full season, with all drivers at its wheels becoming strangely very slow... :rolleyes:
Sure, a massive 0,5 s faster than Hänninen who competes first time in UK :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
I changed blanks to my gun.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
So, I tell you this NOT. With your experience of rally, you certainly know that at least Lindholm is there to test the car, not trying to get a team seat.
What comes to Bernardi... I really don't care :)
I don't have anything against the team...but the choice of drivers was tragic....you cannot hope for progress with such incopetence at the wheel.
Has Stuart Jones(MG S2000) also retired in SS3 or is it only split times missing ??? :confused:
See...Quote:
Originally Posted by COD
Japanise philosophy seem to be that if they don't get an instant success, even with an invalid car, there's no point to continue.
You heard it from me first. Suzuki's out of WRC.
;)
I know, a driver like Gardemeister doesn't deserve that. I'm afraid w'll see an uncompetitive SX4 WRC in 2008. At least at this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
What an amazing tester they got.....what is he testing exactly ? Our patience ??Quote:
Originally Posted by A.F.F.
:laugh: :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
A bit harsh but true.
I still think that Lindholm has a reputation of being a good and experienced test driver.
I had a dream, Suzukis dream, :rotflmao:Quote:
Originally Posted by A.F.F.
I don´t get It............................................. :dozey:
Suzuki's slowness is because drivers are told not to push and the car is extremely slow. Nicholas Bernardi is superfast on asphalt. Honestly, that guy equalled Marcus' pace in Spain few years ago (despite few stages). And we know that Marcus is not slow either on asphalt.
I watched Lindholm's in-car video sometimes ago and it seemed more like driving rally cars 15 years back than modern wrc-car. I think that Suzuki will be the joke of next year. I wonder who is paying for driving that car. Toyota Corolla would be cheaper and as competitive. LOl
Maybe P-G knew more than he was telling when he didn't take up Monster's offer for a cheque book drive.
And no money to test? Crazy.They've got to get the car sorted for 08.
jokes apart i think the car is to blame for that performance...Quote:
Originally Posted by A.F.F.
but havng said that their choice of drivers for this year was a drama....and the fact that they are using whole events for testing shows they are not serious...
Lindholm is one of those funny guys who only know how to drive on stages they know by heart.....not a rally driver.....Having a has been cousin also helps in publicity.
Honestly N.O.T, what on earth where you expecting? That they hire Loeb to test their first entry into WRC? That they score a podium on the first try? Or that Lindholm has never raced a car before? He was not hired to be the fastest but to bring feedback to the team on the car's behaviour.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Your odd outbursts against Lindholm make no sense. If you want to vent your frustration at Suzuki's progress, direct it against the team rather than the test driver.
Just my 2 cents..
That funny guy is 8-time Finnish rally champion. Just for the record ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
when a 7th fastest time is a sucess after two full years in wrc... there is a bigger problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by A.F.F.
My mind about the Suzuki subject: if the boss "Monster" Tajima wouldn't have proudly declared in front of the press that Suzuki was aiming...PODIUMS(!!!)in 2008 WRC championship, the "performances" of current SX4 wouldn't really have been so tightly followed by rally fans in Corsica and now in RAC... :s
It appears obvious now that it can't reach such purpose with whatever drivers at its wheels(too much mechanical/set-up problems) :mark:
Having won several times the famous Colorado Pikes peak hillclimb should have given an extraordinary sur-evaluataed optimism to Tajima it seems :rolleyes:
Yes it must be the car, i agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by A.F.F.
Suzuki has a nice L.A. video and that´s enough to promote the car in USA....also in Europe maybe. :p : I HAD A DREAM, hahahahahaha
lindholm drive for free.. and bernardi get FFSA to pay. unless suzuki commit €20m to the job, and proper engineering sturture, they can forget about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
lindholm offtopic
Test driver example peugeot wrc + if anyone "handless" driver can drive this speed (below..) Please immediately call Suzuki...
NESTE RALLY FINLAND - 2004 / After Stage 11
1. Grönholm
2. Sebastion Lindholm +19.1
3. Märtin +37,1
4. Sainz +1:04.2
5. Tuohino +1:04.9
6. Loeb +1:15.2
dont worry... hanninen will likely be exlcuded... i dunno this time... for having his pet rabbit in the car with him.Quote:
Originally Posted by COD
Maybe they build a S2000 for 2012 instead of a wrc car? :laugh:
Did they not say we are not happy with the new rules for the future in WRC? :p :
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Originally Posted by A.F.F.
Mmm.. I dont know. Look at F1. despite having mega budget they still dont win. I can see them winning in a few years, but only with European engineering and managment expertise.
I will say this now: Suzuki in 2008 will make for example Hyundais'/MSD's attempt with the Accent look miles better. They just dont have enough money for WRC, there are no required structures to make a competent WRC team, japanese attitude...so many problems lay ahead.
One wonders if they will even make it till the end of season next year...
And one thing...I really really hope they dont ruin some drivers career during their time as a WRC team (like PG, Wilks, etc.).