Of course we'll probably have no chance to get anywhere near him. I'll be there Sunday. Hopefully he'll get a good idea of how NASCAR and it's drivers treat loyal fans and take a little of that back to F1.
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Of course we'll probably have no chance to get anywhere near him. I'll be there Sunday. Hopefully he'll get a good idea of how NASCAR and it's drivers treat loyal fans and take a little of that back to F1.
I thought I heard Bob Varsha or David Hobbs mention he's about to get booted out of his F1 ride with Red Bull during the Monaco Grand Prix. He's probably going to try peddling himself for a Cup ride.
he better be only observing, no way I want to see him in Nascar
The reason Crazy-Dave is still driving OW cars is because he actually can't fit into a tintop due to his jaw.... :pQuote:
Originally Posted by tstran17_88
There's no way he could squeeze into the drivers window of a Cup car..
The COT has a bigger window opening than the old car...even AJ Foyt Jr could fit through now! :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by JSH
Well its not a full-time ride or even a one off race but it is a test and thats what my boy needs, some seat time and to get into the swing of things.
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TRACY TO TEST CRAFTSMAN TRUCK WITH GERMAIN RACING
TSN.CA STAFF
5/27/2008 10:51:05 AM
While his open-wheel colleagues were busy turning circles around the Indianapolis Motor Speedway on Sunday, Paul Tracy was not sitting at home lamenting the fact he could not be part of the unified Indy 500.
Instead, the former Champ Car champion was busy making travel arrangements for Chicago where he will take part in a NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series test on Wednesday for Germain Racing.
This will be Tracy's first experience behind the wheel of a truck but as he has shown in the past, the open-wheeler has been quick to adapt to any number of racing disciplines - NASCAR, Grand-Am and off-road trucks.
"I'm still young and I have a great passion for the sport of racing, and I plan to be a part of it for many years to come," said Tracy from his home in Las Vegas.
"My situation with Forsythe was unfortunate, but it has opened up so many other opportunities for me and I'm really enjoying my life right now."
"The Germain Racing team is a championship team that is committed to winning, so it humbles me to be able to take part in a test and share a Toyota Tundra with Todd Bodine. He is one of the best in the business and I'm looking forward to getting to Chicago on Wednesday and doing whatever I can to learn from him so that I can experience my own success should I go that direction."
Tracy last raced competitively at the Champ Car finale at Long Beach in April. At that event, he confirmed that he had secured his release from Forsythe Racing, which would allow him to pursue other opportunities. While he says he would like to compete in the unified IndyCar series, Tracy has maintained he would prefer to race with one of the top tier teams such as Penske, Andretti Green or Ganassi.
This sucks. He needs to be in an Indycar. That's one more star lost to the taxi cabs.
That is one bored man.
What are the chances of Red Bull extending their operation to 3 cars in the future? With Scott Speed coming on it might be something they are considering. And with DC in the future who knows?
Agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by call_me_andrew
Why can't an Indycar team give him a test, or why can't he take a one-off with Vision in Edmonton or something?
Maybe because of his past history of behavior, like the "chrome horn" and acting out? He certainly developed a reputation as the "bad boy" in CART and CCWS. He burned (torched) a lot of bridges along the way, and why would a team saddle themselves with that baggage? Unfortunately, he is also a bit past his "sell by" date, and "one-offs" just wouldn't make sense for any team. Unless of course, he brings bags of money or sponsorship.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chamoo
Not sure if you realized, but, Vision is owned by Tony George, the same man who owns the IRL. Tony running PT in a one off at Edmonton, a Canadian venue, and a track PT has run before, would bring in bags of money and sponsorship for the race, and open up doors for the future in Canada with PT.Quote:
Originally Posted by beachbum
Edmontonians aren't going to show up at the race to cheer on Marty Roth as their Canadian Hero.
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Originally Posted by Chamoo
But, but, but Scott Goodyear is going to be there! <big ol' facetious grin>
Gary
He's controversial and a proven race winner. IndyCar could definitely use a guy like PT.Quote:
Originally Posted by beachbum
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Originally Posted by bblocker68
Especially this year! Durring this transition, his racing experience, humor, antics, persona, would be a big plus. When the unification was announced PT was one of the drivers mentione by name by the IRL as a person they really wanted to have. It was a shame he was not in the 500, a real shame.
Gary
forget that, the IRL is only about Danica. thats what everyone shows up for, gag :mark:Quote:
Originally Posted by garyshell
paul tracy tried nascar and his results were not very good
paul tracy should stay with what he does best
he should come to nascar
im sure the good old boys would welcome him
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Originally Posted by harvick#1
We get it. You hate Danica. Is it REALLY necessary to continue to tell us this in threads that have NOTHING to do with Danica?
Gary
Because he's washed up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chamoo
He WAS fast. He WAS good.
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Originally Posted by JSH
Based on what? A dismal year with the DP01, where it was obvious that the crew didn't have a clue what they were doing by applying old setup data from a non-existant car as their baseline? They, by their own admisssion, struggled all year to try to give Tracy a car that suited his style of driving. They never figured it out. Hardly an indication that PT was or is washed up. He might be, but for me the jury is still out.
Gary
I'd love to see PT apply the Chrome Horn to Danica, and watch the sparks fly. Made for TV!
as for alot of others alsoQuote:
Originally Posted by oldhippie
Carpentier is struggling with Evernham
Montoya shows very little signs of life but sometimes can run with the best
Hornish is off alot and rarely on
Allmendinger can barely qualify week in, week out
Franchitti is now injured but was struggling.
the IRL and Nascar would be way better off if they all went back to OW.
PT will just be another failure if he joins Nascar
I'm with you, Chamoo -- having PT and Danica in the same series could be very interesting. I'm not PT's #1 fan, but his absence looms large.
Please.Have you ever stood next to Michael Waltrip? ;) Coulthard is a midget compared to Mikey. Remember, He was so big they allowed him test an escape hatch out the roof he had so much trouble getting in and out of the window. He does have quite the square jaw doesn't he. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by JSH
why though is AJ still in a car. but I got to believe that this is his last year if he doens't prove anything other than qualifying and running in 35th every week.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
Speed will do slightly better than AJ would but not much.
Vickers shows what the team can do when they hit the setup right, still haven't seen anything big from AJ. and an All-star race with non of the big boys is nothing to be proud of
Hey, at least David is already used to running around at the back.
A few comments I'll make here.
Harvick offered PT a contract for 2007 to run Busch, so I guess Harvick saw/sees something in PT that you sunday afternoon couch potatoes dont.
Also if PT jumped right back into Sprint Cup again there would be cries of "he sholdnt be here, he doesnt know what hes doing, he should start in TRUCKS first".
AND NOW that he is testing trucks hes washed up and shouldnt even bother?
Give me a break, there is no pleaseing you guys.
Oh and as for the other OW guys, well what about all the NASCAR veterans that stuggle mid-field and have come up through the ranks and still struggle at the back.
People omit that he would've won at least one more championship if it weren't for Bourdais taking him out in two or three races.Quote:
Originally Posted by JSH
PT in Trucks = awful.
There have been a lot of drivers coming in from other racing series lately and I don't know of one that hasn't been welcome.Quote:
Originally Posted by oldhippie
I thought he had already failed in NASCAR once before.Quote:
Originally Posted by harvick#1
It's sad that Canadians are so seemingly nationalistic that they need a competitive "horse in the race" to be interested.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chamoo
Sure, I cheer for Marco and Graham because they're young American drivers continuing great legacies with bright futures ahead of them but I would still watch Indycar even without them.
I like Indycar for the racing and I would still watch every weekend knowing there wasn't a single American in the field.
A similar situation is hockey where Jeremy Roenick is an American in a league that is 99% Canadian and is known mostly for his mouth and personality. While he's funny, I'm kind of embarrased by him because he's washed up and thinks he's better than he actually is. I have no problem being a hockey fan when there are no American superstars.
I like the sport for the sport, not who is taking part in it.
That said it would be interesting to see him in an Indycar. Hey, the Sharks gave Roenick a chance. :p
I don't see alot of these open wheel boys having the transition success that someone like Stewart had. Seems like their rides are drying up and they figure Nascar is the place to land. We need some more grass root dirt track oval boys to move up.
It's not that Canadians are so nationalistic about it, casual racing fans are nationalistic about it, just as casual American fans are nationalistic about their drivers.Quote:
Originally Posted by -Helix-
You sir are more then a casual fan, most everyone on this forum is. We will watch the races whether the drivers are Asians, Africans, North Americans et cetera. But, the casual fan in North America needs something extra to force them to dish out the money to buy a ticket. I'm not sure if you are aware of what force PT has in Canada, he is Canada's best known driver, even ahead of Jacques Villeneuve.
The race will be no different whether PT is in it or not, but, the casual fans in Edmonton might decide to go check out the race to cheer on someone they like, and that isn't Marty Roth. The people need that little something extra to get them off the couch and out to the race track.
The race will be successful with or without PT, but, it will be a complete success if PT is there.
What nonsense. JR had a great year for the Sharks, with TEN game winning goals, a 4 point performance in game 7 versus the Flames, and served as an on ice leader and all around great locker room guy all year. He's not washed up in any way, and is surprisingly humble. End OT rant.Quote:
Originally Posted by -Helix-
As for PT, I'd rather see him in a truck than not racing at all.
I'd rather he not...
Am I the only one who would welcome the open wheel drivers IF and only IF they run in ARCA for a season, and then run in Busch? I prefer the Scott Speed method. The fact is, as cool as it is to see guys I know from other series trying the stock cars, I just don't see how anyone who struggles to run 30th and then takes out half the field really belongs in Cup. Especially when they got sent to Cup with little to no experience. It's a money thing, I understand, but I'd much rather see someone so commited to stock car racing that they actually bother to pay their dues and learn the ropes.
But I still would rather DC not...
As much as I know, the term "brain flatulence" was always associated with his IndyCar career.Quote:
Originally Posted by JSH
But yes, if he has the pace he should be in IndyCar.
I think he will do significantly better, because when (if) he gets to the cup he will have honed his skills significantly through the lower classes of stock car racing. Allmendinger has not, and it shows. Besides, experience aside, I think Speed is more talented anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by harvick#1
He won't.Quote:
Originally Posted by oldhippie
Hi all, new member here.
Just a thought, am I the only one thats a little confused as to why everyone seems to think a OW racer converting to NASCAR absolutely MUST start off in ARCA or CTS before working their way up. But I don't remember reading in the recent "Kyle Busch to test F1, race in future" rubbish that he should start in F3, then go GP2 before getting to F1