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I don't know if it was already said, I almost never read/write in this part of the forum, but this one is too hilarious xD
http://www.tgcom.mediaset.it/sport/a...lo369651.shtml
Sorry it's in italian, try some google translation, but what can I say ... LOOOOOOL !!! http://img.freeforumzone.it/upload/459333_ride5.gif
That guy will receive a Ferrari car soon as a gift, I guess rotfl
If he is selling pizza's we don't want any today. Thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by Helstar
Here's what Stepney had to declare about this affair, it's pretty long and complicated, and it looks very very messy:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/60613
I reckon this saga will drag on for years and Mike won't be able to get a decent posting with another team during the interim.
Something doesn't smell right here.
It is very nice, is it not? Poor Macca are again innocent and clean and the evil Honda Japanese are the villains? Macca are gentlemen? They to steal from Ferrari? How so? They are the "good guys", with "equal" status of the drivers! Ferrari and Honda are the villains!Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
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It is sad. FIA needs a new mega star and here comes Lamilton. He should be helped...
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For me it makes sense. But where's the truth? I don't know.Quote:
Originally Posted by "
It sounds weird, IMO. From what I understood, he is completely clean, but the Ferrari have said assassins to slay his girlfriend and in the same time a mysterious villains sells info for Couhlan and as a result noble McLaren and innocent Stepney are insulted.
read part of stepney's declaration of Innocence on ITV-F1, was interesting to read that he says he's been framed, that there has been a lot of contrversy down the years (at Ferrari) and he knows "where the bodies are hidden"
if this is the case we will never find out, Ferrari will buy his silence by dropping the case and making sure he stays out of F1 for good?
You don't really believe they were actually harming people at Ferrari.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robinho
I mean there are engineers that were able to leave Ferrari for other teams and nothing happened to them!
Or was he talking about unsuccessful car bodies? :D
i don't think he meant real bodies ;) but if there are any secrets buried in Ferraris recent past (and some here will believe that to be a certainty) then Stepney is one who ought to know some of these, would ferrari risk this coming out, or do they hope he will be discredited enough by this affair?
Speaking about hidden bodies I remember that in 1999 some Macca fans claimed that a Ferrari assassin has shot the tyre of Mika Hakkinen. Even as Hakkinen fan I thought that rather crazy.
For me it does make a sense and I couldn't understand or imagine how stupid would be this Guy to do whatever Ferrari said that he did while he knew that he is scanned everywhere is going or whatever he is doing?!Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
But still wait and we will know the truth.
But who fired the shot? and wasn't there some smoke seen a shot heard from the grassy knoll... or was it the grandstand? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by F1boat
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Originally Posted by Zico
It was Elvis!!
Prediction: It will turn out that the documents in question were in fact removed from a German, former driver's house without the former drivers knowledge, by an alleged current driver, also German, also a brother. This brother then, in desperation, tried to parley the documents to various teams in exchange for a ride in 2008.
However, this nameless driver has had a change of heart after reading a new "self-help" book called "What To Do When The Phone Doesn't Ring" by J. Villeneuve and is now engaged in the study of music and will soon reveal himself as one of the top 3 drummers in the world.
Your sarcasm is so subtle... I was talking like this when I was 5... Who said Honda are villains? they've decided on there own to make public their meeting with these two guys... Itīs so obvious but you seem to be talking about something else. We all are aware that you hate McLaren like poison... but thereīs no need to embarrass yourself like this!Quote:
Originally Posted by F1boat
In that link the story is explained well. The Coughlan wife, Trudy, went in an internet point with all the documents and asked to digitalize them. The shop guy, being a total Ferrari fan, noticed the logo and the complexity of the material, so he asked "is your husband working for Ferrari ?" and Trudy replied "no, he used to though ...", so he got suspicious and informed Ferrari and British Police, leading to the investigation at Coughlan home and all of this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Valve Bounce
the google link translation of the complete article
http://translate.google.com/translat...language_tools
That seems to be the aim :dozey:Quote:
Originally Posted by Robinho
Jean Todt's take on the affair:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/60655
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Originally Posted by Fiero 5.7
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That's so plausible until the last line. I think he'll claim rights to being the world's best whistle blower ;)
source: http://www.tgcom.mediaset.it/sport/a...lo369784.shtml
Flavio Briatore uncovers his usual sarcasm and talk about Dennis: "It's so strange to see that now Dennis acts like Todt's friend. Actually he seems to have became everybody's friend ! Touch people in their shoulders, laughs, he is one of us now: I don't know what happened in these days (note: LOL !) but it's just fantastic !"
Is FB one of them? I used to think heīs just a leech.Quote:
Originally Posted by Helstar
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Originally Posted by Helstar
This is a very interesting report, and I'm sure a lot will be revealed during the court hearing on Tuesday.
That's propably one of the most emptiest intervue ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
I'm sad about this and can't commen't any further, says Todt.
And they manage to stretch that into a full page affair. :)
Good point. But there were things to be understood from the questioning and answering way.Quote:
Originally Posted by janneppi
Why Autosport even bothered to reproduce such an interview is unbelievable. I think Jean Todt was just too nice to tell the guy to "bugger off".Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
I find Stepney's story a little hard to swallow! Coughlan ends up with all the docs on the F2007 and Stepney was framed??? Why wasn't Coughlan claiming he was framed, too??? Maybe Todt and Coughlan were conspiring to frame Stepney? That way a position opens at Ferrari and Coughlan can move in?
I don't know all the details, but I find the "framed" scenario about as believeable as the "fact" that nobody else at McLaren has seen the documents except Coughlan!! ;)
Even more suspect is the way that RD is acting so nice to everyone now!!!
What I have found funny was RD saying that he is 100% sure that no Ferrari innovation made it into their cars.
I mean how can he know that? He isn't the designer of the car after all!
very good point. the "evidence" seems to suggest certain things which on the surface appear to confirm my Honda theory.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
looking at Nigels response, he took great pains to confirm that he has not been passing documents but were documents passed and if so, was he aware of this?
if Nigel is guilty, then it may be by association.
what is more worrying is the suggestion of him being fitted up. I find this incredible but we have the following statement.
"Ferrari is terrified that what I have in my mind is valuable. I guess I know where the bodies are buried from the last ten years; and there were a lot of controversies in that time.
"But do you think (chief designer) Nicolas Tombazis came to Ferrari from McLaren without something in his mind? The new Ferrari front end aero came from McLaren, because it was in his head."
is this Nigel putting a shot across the bow of ferrari to not fit him up or a blackmail threat by Nigel for ferrari to allow this to slide in return for his future silence. In other words, is he cutting a deal?
I am convinced that the past decade at ferrari has some very interesting and damaging episodes that Nigel can throw up. if he was to spill the beans, it would discredit a lot of their achievements over the period.... but what would happen.
Most of the key figures of that era have moved off, the Red Baron has retired, the chief architech is on sabbatical etc. It is unlikely that the FIA would take any retrospective action and if Nigel goes down the tubes, the enshewing rumpus will look at the accusations of a bitter ex employee. I personally think that Bernie, Max and Ferrari will still want to avoid this eventuality.
if it is a fit up though, I dont think that the data trail will stand up on the evidence of the supposed actions to date.
the thing that really confuses me now is the accusation of someone unconnected with the sport, apparently working at a copy shop, blowing the whistle. IF this happened as reported, it really is the smoking gun connecting Mike with the plans and a very strong link between Mike and Nigel. everything relies on this one allergation in my opinion as this is the key that would convince me Nigel had knowledge that these plans were sent.
but, it's becomming more and more evident that McLaren were not involved in this heinous crime. Can the people calling for McLaren to be blown to smitherines and Ron burned at the stake, please assemble outside Woking to sweep up the ashes and apologise to the smouldering remains :p :
I can only surmise - I know nothink!! NOTHINK!!
Very clever way to check no other team employs Nigel Stepney and typical underhand Ferrari tactics. I really hope Brawn does not buy this one as well. Lets hope an Inde like Williams says bollocks, we will hire him.
In real life, governments when they are no longer in good terms with people who have been involved in high secret services, the next step is to eliminate them slowly but surely.
So Nigel leaving the team, Brawn not happy with the team and Schumacher leaving to retire, so we should understand the Ferrari they can't afford to lose all those Keys people and stay silent.
Schumacher is a consultant and soon may become "Master Strategy"
Brawn may become as well team boss next year to replace J.Todt
So how to deal with Nigel? Just accuse him and bring him to court to demolish his name and so on.
Why would Brawn come back if he wasn't happy with the team (as you stated)? Sorry but you made little sense in this post.Quote:
Originally Posted by F1MAN2007
And word is that Stepney has had to flee Italy as he was being stalked, fearing for his own safety.
That's what he said in his interview Saturday, who knows if he is really in danger.Quote:
Originally Posted by Malllen
Or do you think that Ferrari would try to harm him now when everything is public, if that was their aim they could have done it before starting elagl procedures against him?
He is just trying to picture himself as the victim in this scenario, and some actually believe him!
and some are waiting to see what is the truth before jumping to conclusions.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
A senior (just about former) member of the Ferrari team is saying he is being stalked and fears for his safety. A few weeks ago, you would have accused us of being Ferrari haters if we dared question his integrity?
neither of us know the validity to this story but if it turns out that he is innocent of these accusations, you have to admit it adds weight to what he is saying, doesnt it?
And believing that Ferrari want to harm him doesn't make you a Ferrari hater? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Flat.tyres
If you believe that Ferrari would arrange to harm somebody who wants to leave them, can you explain why there are so many ex-employees of Ferrari working for other teams as we speak?Quote:
Originally Posted by Flat.tyres
Unless you are a mentally deranged conspiracy theorist, the answer to that is an emphatic 'no'.
So, as for 'harming' Stepney, it's just not going to be a Ferrari policy.
But, the Tifosi.....that's a different matter.
Go on, confess, you were the one following Stepney weren't you ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by tamburello
No, because the Judas (alleged) is still alive!Quote:
Originally Posted by janneppi