As usual, some rallies have a completely different rulebook...
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As usual, some rallies have a completely different rulebook...
I guess they will stop it after all rc1 cars...
Why? This is why I like rallysport - you need to adapt to conditions. This is not formula 1 or even hillclimb, where they stop the race with almost first drop of rain...Quote:
Originally Posted by deephouse
RC2 cars on the stageQuote:
Originally Posted by bearclaw
Nope, Gryazin and Dapra on stageQuote:
Originally Posted by bearclaw
[QUOTE/]Why? This is why I like rallysport - you need to adapt to conditions. This is not formula 1 or even hillclimb, where they stop the race with almost first drop of rain... [QUOTE/]
This is a joke, everyone shout for the same thing. One thing is different conditions and adapting, but this is not SAFE at all. Imagine fans being at safe spots and driver not seeing road at all and going straight into crowd with nobody to warn them. It would be catastrophy.
Thankfully they stop the stage, I think too late, or I mean it shouldn't even started at all, but it is what it is. This is not normal, even for WRC standards. I hope just that the times would be cancelled for everyone to be fair, cuz nominal times never are fair
So you were correct... Red flagged...Quote:
Originally Posted by bearclaw
Red flagged
It's all about adapting to the conditions. I don't know why the are complaining all the time, this is rally!! Do they don't know anymore what rallying is all about. Fastest from A to B in all conditions..Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
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red flagged
^H^H^H red flag
Should have been red flagged earlier.. Should have been cancelled at all.
Armstrong nearly a heavy crash.
For years we have had plain dry Monte and now with 3 stages we got everything we could ask
I dont agree. For me this is part of the rally - to be able to adapt to the conditions. It is too slippery? Slow down. There is a fog? Slow down...Quote:
Originally Posted by CeskyOndra
If anybody is not hearing the stage end interviews, Paddon said:
- he loves fog
- but this is too much fog
- even after he slowed right down for the red flag, he didn't know whether he was on the road or not
This is bullshit. Rallying is about driving to the conditions. Could have been a fun evening for spectators, but they ruined it.
Cmon they could barely see the road. Not barely, they basically didn’t see itQuote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
Im also against canceling but this was too dangerous
You just need to drive slower then. I know a lot of rally drivers that would have loved to drive one of this cars in this conditions without complaining.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
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Neuville T.
"These conditions are crazy, very very dangerous. Any race would have been canceled. We should have stopped the stage before the fog came. Very very dangerous."
And none of them wouldn’t have finishedQuote:
Originally Posted by torsteinrp
And they did drive very slowly or you are saying they were fast?
RAC rally 1997: Burns took 60 s from Colin in a foggy stage. It´s just about bravery and good pacenotes. Men should be men.
Having said that, I´m aware of the difference today compared to RAC in the 90´s, but still. Rallying demands real men.
Regarding the salting of the road in SS2, could it be to allow emergency vehicles to get through the stage? Like a few years ago in Monza where the outright canceled a stage for this reason.
That would seem somewhat justifiable. Better than cancelling the stage because ambulances can't get down it, although the rally cars can.Quote:
Originally Posted by becher
But, if so, I wonder why they didn't salt the end, which (I think, anyone confirm?) was at altitude and would expect worse conditions.
No I did not say that they were driving fast but rallying is not always about driving fast. From the TV shots it seems like it was only about 1-2km at the end that was really bad. Will confirm later when the onboards are out.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
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I wonder if all those who says that adaption is key, if anyone would seriously been hurt or even die, what would their opinion BE. It's also risk and what could happen that needs to be considered running those kind of stages in those conditions.
Rich Millener is a very sympathetic man.
Quite a statement from someone who repeatedly mentioned here how dangerous is to drive modern rally cars at fast bumpy tarmac.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
After what Neuville said and views from the onboards, if there'd been a bad crash the Organisers would be in big trouble.
Thierry was always complaining about everything...Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Normally I would be against cancelling the stage, but that fog was extreme. There is a difference between mist and fog. Some of the onboards were ridiculous.
But in this case we can ask the question why they are organising the rally in winter when there is risk of snow and ice, when safety cars cannot go through?Quote:
Originally Posted by Morte66
These guys are blind to risk, responsibility, the law and having to explain personal actions in an inquiry. It's a null conversation at this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by deephouse
Most said the same, like...Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
"It's impossible to drive this one. Even with 50 kph you just don't know where to go."
I agree. I really enjoyed Monte with fog a few years ago, but this was too much at night.Quote:
Originally Posted by doubled1978
He really got lost there. I was only half watching the onboard when that happened, but I got the feeling he opened the door to check whether he was on the road.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
The CoC said the red flag was also due to spectators moving into unsafe positions as cars were running.
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